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aarobonob
October 21st, 2001, 05:29 AM
ok... so now I let on to the real gaping hole in my knowledge... sure, i've pretended to be quite savy, but now i'm just dying to know something.. I've heard alot of talk about nukers lately... so I go to find information on them. No, no information, just download our nuker today and nuke someone.. wow, that helps... First of all, i don't want to be malicious (what for, right?) and second i want to know exactly what it does... so, for a newbie, could some eone please explain?

(please explain he says, cowering in the corner... oh no, he thinks...i hope not a dumb question...)

aarobonob
October 21st, 2001, 06:02 AM
the funy thing is, no one replies.. a couple views but no one replies.. dang huh? i'll be so very greatful to the first replier wiht substance :)

stflook
October 21st, 2001, 06:17 AM
Try this link:

http://www.antionline.com/jargon/nuke.php

I hope it helps.

aarobonob
October 21st, 2001, 06:22 AM
thanx alot for that link...i did check that..but it doens' treally answer all the questions i have. any more explanations?

stflook
October 21st, 2001, 06:24 AM
Before I can answer them, you have to ask them. What are they?

aarobonob
October 21st, 2001, 06:28 AM
ok then..i thought it was clearer up top..sorry.. if i downloaded a nuker program, what does it do? obviously i don't want to do it i just want to know how it works and why it does it..i think i read somewhere about it sending packets very fast... then i thought perhaps it overloaded hte other person with packets from one machine to the next..but then, if one computer is slower htan the other, that won't work..so i figured that guess was wrong.. is that clearer?

8*B@LL
October 21st, 2001, 06:29 AM
now, i cant claim to be an expert, but i think it sends a f'd up ping packet that crashes older systems.

if you are asking what the result is, they are suposed to lock up the pc at the targeted ip. i believe most of them wot work on current systems.

Ennis
October 21st, 2001, 06:55 AM
Ok, heres some links to info on Denial of Service attacks or 'nuking'. Not much about programs but enough about the attacks to get you started.

I suppose the best way to learn is to read so I suggest digging up tutorials on DoS and you will learn more than from anyone posting a reply.


www.anti-hack.za.net/


www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Surf/9103/info.html

Sorry about this I posted 5 links and checked them out and only 2 worked? I got the links from Copernic, maybe its because I havent slept tonight...

:o

aarobonob
October 21st, 2001, 07:07 AM
tanx for the info..might i point out, tho that only the geociites and antihack links work! thanx tho.. inow understand. one topic down 65334 more ;)

KapperDog
October 21st, 2001, 07:40 AM
Here (http://hackingtruths.box.sk/dos.htm) is a pretty clear and simple explaination.

Here (http://www.denialinfo.com/) is all the advanced reading you could ever ask for.

stflook
October 21st, 2001, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by aarobonob
tanx for the info..might i point out, tho that only the geociites and antihack links work! thanx tho.. inow understand. one topic down 65334 more ;)

Well, *cracking knuckles* start asking.

aarobonob
October 22nd, 2001, 05:35 AM
thanx for the cracking knuckles...look for more posts from aarobonob in the very near future :) int he newbies section of course..

valhallen
October 23rd, 2001, 05:43 PM
Ummmm I was always under theimpression that a nuker (or was that a Winuker?) connected to an open port (If memory serves right I tink it was 139) on older versions of windows (95/98) and sent a packet that caused the machine to crash!? But being easily patched on these versions and removed in older versions these attacks have been left nearly useless now - or am I completely wrong!? :what:

freon
October 26th, 2001, 03:22 AM
So far in the answers in this thread, Winnuke and the Ping of Death have been mentioned. Winnuke sent out-of-band data on port 139, which caused Windows machines to lock up. The ping of death was a very old attack which sent a big malformed Ping packet (ICMP ECHO_REQUEST) to the victim, which would cause the same sort of effect. More recently, twinge appeared; this sent a flurry of invalid ICMP requests to the victim (A Windows machine) which would kill it pretty quickly.

However, these are all specific attacks. The term 'nuker' or 'denial of service attack' just means any attack on a machine which causes it no longer to be able to provide a certain service or set of services. As such, a brick lobbed with sufficient force is a nuker, too; it's just that most of them are small programs that splatter the machine over a network because that's the easiest, most popular form of this sort of attack.

There are hideous numbers of different ways that these nukers have been known to work in the past. Luckily most of them are highly unlikely to work on most machines these days, though - but the latest ones still will, of course.

Well, I could go into more specifics, but there's no particular reason for me to do so, so I won't. If you have any specific questions about this, feel free to ask and I'll try, along with everyone else here I'm sure, to give a helpful answer.

- Freon

adore
October 29th, 2001, 04:01 PM
All of you have failed to tell the person who is questioning nukers that it is very illegal. If you are traced and caught you will for sure be fined a hefty amount and possible jail time.Possibly $5,000.00 depending on the severity. I suggest if you really want to know about nuking go do a search on it yourself, and study the source code. If you want to protect yourself set up a good firewall. Close port 139 NetBios. Alot of nukers do not work since the bugs have been fixed in windows and so forth.

adore from http://www.hackers.com

aarobonob
October 29th, 2001, 06:29 PM
thanx for the replies... i of course know it is illegal..but with all the other time i need to spend at work and stuff, i haven't found too much time to research it myself. so thats why i asked my antionline buddies. :D figured they could share it faster... i have learned alot...thanx again.. no more specific questions.

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