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Suicidal Maniac
November 8th, 2001, 07:39 PM
I have been using aenima up until now, but since switching over to Win2k, aenima no longer works.

Anyone know of a bomber that is compatible with Win2k or XP?

Therealmaster
November 8th, 2001, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
I have been using aenima up until now, but since switching over to Win2k, aenima no longer works.

Anyone know of a bomber that is compatible with Win2k or XP?

Ok......try stop being such a script kiddie, learn C/C++ (or VB if you have to) and write your own programme that will do it. And then become a real hacker and stop spamming/mailbombing people . Then come back to antionline and actually say something useful.


As you can probably tell......i don't like script kiddiots (but i don't mind newbies asking decent questions)

aarobonob
November 9th, 2001, 01:36 AM
a mailbomber? shoudl i call the FBI? does your mail bomber contain anthrax? i am rather scared now! :)
dont use mail bombers..do it by hand :)

ThePreacher
November 9th, 2001, 02:36 AM
I really dont think it is a good idea to ask for help breaking the law in a security related chat forum. I am interested in source code however in java, c++, or visual basic that will give me an idea on how these malicious programs work.

Suicidal Maniac
November 9th, 2001, 02:53 AM
I kind of was expecting to find some people here with a degree of intelligence. wtf is a 'script kiddie' anyway, doubt it would fit my description. I have been registered here alot longer than you so I feel you are the newbie.

I posted this in the Newbie forum as i thought it was a easy question.

If this was such a dumb question, then why do you have mailbombers in your security downloads section?

Therealmaster
November 9th, 2001, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
wtf is a 'script kiddie' anyway, doubt it would fit my description.

A script kiddie is someone who cannot make their own program due to lack of programming skills and so has to use someone elses without understanding what it means.

Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
I kind of was expecting to find some people here with a degree of intelligence.


I do have a degree of intelligence, so you've found at least one person.


Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
anyway, doubt it would fit my description. I have been registered here alot longer than you so I feel you are the newbie.


Just because i have not been registered with the new site for long does not mean i am a newbie by any stretch of the imagination. Au contraire i have used antionline for about 5 years....and seen the forums grow to become a central part of it, just because i have only recently needed to sign up does not make me a newbie.

Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac

I posted this in the Newbie forum as i thought it was a easy question.


This is an easy question..... the answer is dont do it


Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac

If this was such a dumb question, then why do you have mailbombers in your security downloads section?

There are mail bombers in the security downloads, not to use, but so people can learn how they work and how to defend/ protect themselves against them.

stflook
November 9th, 2001, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
I kind of was expecting to find some people here with a degree of intelligence. wtf is a 'script kiddie' anyway, doubt it would fit my description. I have been registered here alot longer than you so I feel you are the newbie.

I posted this in the Newbie forum as i thought it was a easy question.

If this was such a dumb question, then why do you have mailbombers in your security downloads section?

Most members here are intelligent. It's script kiddies like you that lack intelligence and common sense. In response to your question, script kiddies are people who download programs that do all the work for them, and call themselves hackers. A mail bomber is a script kiddie program. Mail bombing is a lame attack that will get you nowhere. It's reserved for those who have no life. You may have been registered longer, but you only have two posts, so you're technically a newbie to the forums.

Therealmaster
November 9th, 2001, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by stflook


Most members here are intelligent. It's script kiddies like you that lack intelligence and common sense. In response to your question, script kiddies are people who download programs that do all the work for them, and call themselves hackers. A mail bomber is a script kiddie program. Mail bombing is a lame attack that will get you nowhere. It's reserved for those who have no life. You may have been registered longer, but you only have two posts, so you're technically a newbie to the forums.


Thank you for backing up my point. Much appreciated, lets see how many more antipoints i recieve from it :p

Tedob1
November 10th, 2001, 06:56 AM
let there be peace!

we don't know this person is using them on innocent people. i've used them on friends and friends have used them on me, it was all in good sport. id be pissed today though.

Therealmaster
November 10th, 2001, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Tedob1
let there be peace!

There will be when script kiddies stop asking stupid questions.

Originally posted by Tedob1
we don't know this person is using them on innocent people.

I would bet a large sum of money that they are....and even if they are not it's still not the nicest thing in the world to do to someone....even if they are your mate.

Tedob1
November 10th, 2001, 05:08 PM
You may be right Therealmaster and i am NOT on the side of lamers.
In all the mail bombers ive seen, the number of letters sent can be set and it takes a large amount of messages to cause a DoS to someones mail account. if your just goofing with someone 50 or so letters can get you point accross and be nothing more than a minor pain in the butte. childish but mostly harmless.

I do agree with you script kiddies suck as do the people who give them malicious programs and scripts.

UberC0der
November 10th, 2001, 06:47 PM
So you wanna mail bomber that works with Win2000 and Xtra Proprietary eh? I am sure you can get that sort of thing at number of slime pit web sites on the net. And unless you are bombing your own machines, which I highly doubt that is not really the kind of thing I would suggest asking on a site that is intended to counter such things without stating clearly that you would like to know for test purposes.

What the hell is it with security related sites and lame ass kids assuming it is the place to get exploits and general hand holding on using them?

I would suggest you go learn something like how to run a successful earch on Google for what you want, and general internet usage before you get into bombing peoples email.

Ennis
November 10th, 2001, 07:08 PM
Mail-bombing is a useless art, any respectable or commenly usd web-based e-mail service will allow the user to select all incoming mail at once and delete thus solving the problem.
If this service is unavailable to you then consider changing your e-mail provider.

I kind of was expecting to find some people here with a degree of intelligence.
This is uncalled for and has no apparent proof. Almost all members of Antionline have a degree of intelligence, some higher than others, some way below[Seb-G].
People that cant find, use, need to ask about mail-bombers are truly childish, foolish unintelligent people.

wtf is a 'script kiddie' anyway, doubt it would fit my description.
Not only does it fit your description but you could be used as an example when explaining to others what a script kiddie is.

I have been registered here alot longer than you so I feel you are the newbie.
Maybe so, but he has contributed more than you ever will and has learned enough not to ask stupid questions, proof he is an avid member of Antionline.

I posted this in the Newbie forum as i thought it was a easy question.
Well arent you intelligent then, I take it all back........*cough*

If this was such a dumb question, then why do you have mailbombers in your security downloads section
He dosent, JP does, we dont run the site, we are members.

Suicidal Maniac
November 11th, 2001, 02:23 AM
Seems I have had the wrong impression about the purpose of this site. I thought as the site offered Mailbombers in it's download section, that it condoned their use. Now I see I was wrong. But I am sure you can understand how I was mislead and confused.

As these programs are only for 'script kiddies' of whom you all despise so much, would it not be a good idea to removed this software from the downloads section.

No-one ever gave me a chance to say why I may have wanted such a program, but just was quick to flame me. I have no programing skills, and doubt i would ever be able to write any kind of application. But that is why you have programmers that make these things, whatever applications they are. Do you write all the software you use? I doubt it.

Just in case any of you were wondering, i have never mail bombed anyone, but liked having the software in case anyone ever attacked my site or bombed me. It is no biggy though, i don't really care about having a bomber that much, i have more important things to do.

Thanks for your 'help' anyway.

stflook
November 11th, 2001, 05:31 AM
If you were attacked by a hacker, a mail bomber would be among the worst ways to react. It is nothing more than an annoyance to your attacker, and would probably constitute provokation for them to do it again. That's why we have intrusion detection. You can get a log report of who did it, and report them to their ISP and law-enforcement. I recommend Snort. You can get it at www.snort.org You do take anti-hacker measures for your computer, don't you?

Suicidal Maniac
November 11th, 2001, 10:24 AM
Nah, i don't use any anti-hacker measures, I used to, but the majority of attacks that i had were echos of myself bouncing back from server i had just visited and left. Also, all I ever heard was any firewall i used was crap, cos they were easy to get past. They were just more trouble than they were worth.

I did have some attacks when I was with AOL, all which I logged and reported to them, they did nothing about it.

I am on a '2 hour cut off' ISP, so my IP is changing all time. When I get my DSL connection, I will re-install my firewall for the fixed IP.

SolidPez
November 11th, 2001, 05:55 PM
Mailbomber!?! you need to move on...you don't wanna be a script kiddie for ever, do you?

Tedob1
November 11th, 2001, 06:38 PM
Yes i was young once and not as bright as most, i guess

stflook
November 11th, 2001, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
Nah, i don't use any anti-hacker measures, I used to, but the majority of attacks that i had were echos of myself bouncing back from server i had just visited and left. Also, all I ever heard was any firewall i used was crap, cos they were easy to get past. They were just more trouble than they were worth.

I did have some attacks when I was with AOL, all which I logged and reported to them, they did nothing about it.

I am on a '2 hour cut off' ISP, so my IP is changing all time. When I get my DSL connection, I will re-install my firewall for the fixed IP.

If you havent taken any measures to protect yourself from hackers, a mail bomber is the last thing you should worry about. ZoneAlarm and Tiny are both good firewalls, and they're free. Both can be found at www.download.com

SolidPez
November 12th, 2001, 03:59 AM
Sometimes i do think putting viruses and mailbombers...etc.(?) on this site isn't such a great idea. They could end up in the hands of someone who will abuse them...someone who doesn't know the consequences....

Therealmaster
November 12th, 2001, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
Seems I have had the wrong impression about the purpose of this site. I thought as the site offered Mailbombers in it's download section, that it condoned their use. Now I see I was wrong. But I am sure you can understand how I was mislead and confused.

Fair enough, i can see how this could become confusing to people visiting for the first time (or not knowing the purpose of the site)

Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
As these programs are only for 'script kiddies' of whom you all despise so much, would it not be a good idea to removed this software from the downloads section.


As i said earlier, the reason this sort of program is put in the security downloads section is primarily to help admins and such like understand how they work, if it attracts trolls into the form (NO reference to you there intended) for flaming then, so be it.

Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac
No-one ever gave me a chance to say why I may have wanted such a program, but just was quick to flame me


We did give you a chance to explain, but you chose to use it to insult us, the reason i was quick to flame is because on hacking newsgroups and irc channels there are lots of people who ask questions such as, and worse than yours after a few hundered "how do i hack hotmail?" questions you tend to become a little irritated, mail bombing programs are frequently used by script kiddies.

Originally posted by Suicidal Maniac

I have no programing skills, and doubt i would ever be able to write any kind of application. But that is why you have programmers that make these things, whatever applications they are. Do you write all the software you use? I doubt it.


You are right, i don't write all the software that i use, it would be ridiculous to ask ANYONE to do so. However you are asking for a piece of software that can easily become illegal to use in asking whether or not you understand how the program works is generally a good measure of whether or not you know what you are letting yourself in for (as you know how the program will work). It would seem that you did not know what you were letting yourself in for as you were planning to use the software against future assailants, a very unwise move as you would get much more than a flaming. That is why i told you to learn how to program.

Focmaester
November 13th, 2001, 02:29 PM
Mailbombing is just lame, plain and simple. Why? anybody can do it, there is no knowledge required. AND you will get caught since all the programs claim to be anonymous wich they are not.

Altough if u don't want to get caught (here comes the knowledge part) use an anonymous remailer(if you know how to write the script). If you are on ADSL and the target starts bitching and moaning to your ISP's abuse department it could lead to downtime for you.