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K-Line
November 15th, 2001, 03:01 AM
Can anyone recommend a (safe) way to set up a Telnet server on one of my machines?
I use quite a few machines at work, and keep a lot of useful files on my machines at home, and it would be really useful to be able to connect to my machines from my workplace. There are a variety of operating systems on the machines at work, so I would like to use Telnet so I can connect to home regardless of which OS I'm using.
I don't however, just want to leave my TCP port 23 open (for obvious reasons).
Can anyone recommend a decent Telnet server-type program which will run under Windows 2000?
Thanks in advance, :D
K-Line
ammo
November 15th, 2001, 04:43 AM
First of all, telnet is like the total opposite of "secure", you should really search for a ssh server (Secure Shell) which is like telnet but strongly encrypted, authenticated...
www.ssh.com is the comercial implementation,
www.openssh.org is the free implementation.
Howerver, I use openssh on openbsd, and haven't really looked for a free win2k server so perhaps someone else can help on this...
As for multi platform client, I use Mindterm (www.appgate.org) which is a Java client... What's great with it is that I can carry it around in a simple floppy: the jar file (the "executable") takes only ~650KB! So I just pop it in any computer that has a JRE (java runtime environment) and I'm good to go! No install! :)
Ammo
ammo
November 15th, 2001, 04:55 AM
Unable to delete my double post.. sorry...
Tedob1
November 15th, 2001, 05:03 AM
ammo's right its not wise to use telnet.
But if you must, win2k comes with a telnet server installed and enabled by default. if you have all band-ads...i mean patches installed its supposed to be fairly secure. (i wouldn't use it)
it also comes with an ftp server, you can configure the server only to accept connection from your work ip address and disable anonymous logon in ftp.
I don't know of an os that comes without an ftp/telnet client
K-Line
November 16th, 2001, 12:36 AM
Thanks, folks.
You've given me some food for thought with your suggestions. I'll have a rethink, and maybe take a closer look at some of your suggestions.
Thanks again,
K-Line.
8trak
November 16th, 2001, 12:52 AM
Telnet is baaad...
I always search for telnet servers when im trying to hack a network.
If you just want to transfer files and shit, then id recommend FTP
if you want it to be a bit moe transparent, then dont run it on port 21, or 2121 for that matter. Use somthing crazy, like 54323
telnet is such a security risk...
SSH would be good if that what your looking for.
A good FTP server for windows (in my opinion) is War FTP
Therealmaster
November 16th, 2001, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by K-Line
Can anyone recommend a (safe) way to set up a Telnet server on one of my machines?
There isn't really a truely safe way to set up a telnet server on your computer, it's normally really dodgey.
Originally posted by K-Line
I use quite a few machines at work, and keep a lot of useful files on my machines at home, and it would be really useful to be able to connect to my machines from my workplace. There are a variety of operating systems on the machines at work, so I would like to use Telnet so I can connect to home regardless of which OS I'm using.
Ftp is probably the safest way to do what you want, or a VPN (virtual private network)
Originally posted by K-Line
Can anyone recommend a decent Telnet server-type program which will run under Windows 2000?
Your probably better setting up an FTP server althuogh i strongly suggest that you tie it down as much as you can.
instronics
February 1st, 2003, 03:00 PM
I strongly agree with what ammo has said :
First of all, telnet is like the total opposite of "secure", you should really search for a ssh server (Secure Shell) which is like telnet but strongly encrypted, authenticated...
If you have like you said :
I use quite a few machines at work, and keep a lot of useful files on my machines at home, and it would be really useful to be able to connect to my machines from my workplace.
then telnet is not what you really want. SSH is the better solution (Secure Shell).
Browse through www.webattack.com , they have alot of software, and alot of it is free. Im also sure that google.com will help you alot.
About the ftp...ftp is not very secure either (there are 1 or 2 versions that are pretty tight), so some of the ssh servers support sftp which is encrypted. I hope that this helps you out.
Cheers.
balian0
February 1st, 2003, 03:10 PM
what's so insecure about telnet ?
EvidencE
February 1st, 2003, 03:15 PM
Hmmm, telnet is the most silly thing I sow.
99% of haxors hack over it.
Why don't you make 21(fttp)?:)
THe more stupid thing of telnet is only tftp(69).
Ok, well, I would try to reinstall and then while instaling modifie your box to be server, the safest and maybe not fastest, but it don't fail.
EvidencE
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instronics
February 1st, 2003, 03:19 PM
balian0 : The entire conversation between the telnet client and server is clear text. So any sniffer or box in between can read the packets that go through (also username and password). Like K-line said, he has important stuff on his machines, so using telnet is not the solution. SSH is where the entire conversation between client and server is encrypted, so if someone was to sniff the packets, they would only get garbage on their screens. Thats why there is such a thing as SSH.
Cheers.
Evidence: You really have no idea what your talking about, do you ??? (After reading your post in the tutorials section, it amazing what stuff you come up with.) :p
padre
February 1st, 2003, 09:22 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=#post) by balian0
what's so insecure about telnet ?
I guess another question you could ask is, what is secure about telnet? which is nothing. All information transmitted in a telnet session is sent in the clear.
preep
February 1st, 2003, 11:10 PM
[quote]: balian0- what's so insecure about telnet ?
it send the information in raw, which means passwds and such can be sniffed easily, SSH crypts it, which is altogether more secure (if you keep it patched)
Preep
slarty
February 2nd, 2003, 01:04 AM
You can set up a secure telnet server easily - ensure that noone from a nontrusted network or via a nontrusted network ever connects to it via either IP restrictions in the telnet server itself, or filtering at the OS level (i.e. firewalling)
Other than that take normal precautions to prevent them from being able to gain any more access than you give them.
If you want people from or via nontrusted networks to be able to connect, use something else.