if there r ne elite out there that dont mind helping a newbie out...

[WiSe-OnE]

Im new to hacking and phreaking, i mean ive been reading tutorials and doing little shit, but im looking for a elite hacker that wouldnt mind helping out a newbie. So if theres actually ne of theese people out there(which i kinda doubt)please reply to this post or pm me.Pe@c3

[Terr]

Don't take this the wrong way, but my first suggestion is a writing class. Using so-called 'l33t-speak' was a fad, and as a fad I think it has already died, but nobody knows it yet. :D

There is no substitute for a good reference book. Try going to your local library and looking for computer books on TCP/IP or computer hardware. (They should be in the low-numbered dewey-decimal nonfiction areas, something like .000 to .100 or something.)

[IchNiSan]

And from all I have seen of previous replies to Q's like this, no one here is really interested in helping budding crackers, least of all my self.

having said that.

start here,

TCP/IP Illustrated

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201633469/qid=1006457804/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_3_1/103-7863677-5980601

Once you have read that, and understand it,

Then go

www.blackcode.com
www.insecure.org
www.hack3r.com
www.astalavista.com

someirc.server.somewhere
#hackers

And see if they give you a warmer reception than we do... heh..

not.

[Terr]

Originally posted by IchNiSan
And from all I have seen of previous replies to Q's like this, no one here is really interested in helping budding crackers, least of all my self.

Personally, I just feel that I don't explain things very well. I suffer from this tendency to make these explanations which you need background to understand which need more background... It's really tough to help someone out when you tell them to open a dos prompt and ping a computer, and they don't know how to open the dos prompt... Just as an example. That, and why do the work that is already done many many times over by other people? That's what books are for... Omigosh, I just had a revelation...

Script kiddies use software made by other people to do things, and then take credit... Books are programs! Programs for people, interpreted code! Literate people are script(or type) kiddies! Nooooo.... Heh. :D

[WiSe-OnE]

LMAO at the writing course comment.I didnt do it cuz it was a fad tho it just slips every now and then.And as I said I doubt ne one will wanna help.Alota of theese people think they were born with a Unix manual in their hand lol.Ne way thanx ~1~

[IchNiSan]

one more thing,

************Fix your signature...
ixnay noay ignatureay ixfay
You did it...

When I view it from netscape, it shows me all the HTML code...

I suspect the same thing happens to any IE users out there too...

Also try

reading

Hack Attacks REvealed
Hack Attacks Denied
Hacking Exposed
A book on C, perl, java, to name only a few...

[Rna]

Oooh!! Oohhh!!! Im elite!! Im elite!! Pick me pick me!!

Sorry, im not at all helpful, am I...

[WiSe-OnE]

i noticed that today,and the funny thing is i fixed it while u were posting that message lmao

[Ennis]

Originally posted by WiSe-OnE
Im new to hacking and phreaking, i mean ive been reading tutorials and doing little shit, but im looking for a elite hacker that wouldnt mind helping out a newbie. So if theres actually ne of theese people out there(which i kinda doubt)please reply to this post or pm me.Pe@c3 [/B]

First of all, wrong forum this is the tutorial forum not a rent-a-hacker forum.
Secondly you want to learn how to hack on a hackers board go here. (http://www.elitehackers.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi)

Reading is good, read till youre eyes bleed, collect tutorials when you can and buy some damn good books.
Any real hacker as you refer to them as gets asked to teach newbies everyday and it is highly unlikely anyone will take you on as there is no personal gain for them, its time consuming for them .

One more thing if youre interested in hacking remember this, hackers o things ontheir own, learn for themselves.

[Focmaester]

Hacking is a state of mind, many people say "oh I wanna learn how to hack" but they don't know what it's about.
Visit a local meeting like 2600. They are held every month. And if you enjoy it then it might be something for you.

[Mutant]

Dear Sir,
What you wish to do involves concepts and mind set, presents of mind and even prudence. No one can ever teach you or anyone else those things. I suspect that is why "newb's" get a brush off.
One more thing. when you stop being a newb, you stop learning and true Geekhood will Blah blah blah........

- Peace -

[Syxx]

If your asking for someone to "teach you to hack", you will never be a good hacker.

All of the best are self taught, its part of the hacker mentality, you should have a constant thirst for knowledge. You should not sit and ask people to show you things, you should want to get out and find information on your own. Security and Networking related information is all around you, its not incredibly hard to find. If you can't get enough information to get started on your own, I don't know how you think you are ever going to get enough information about any kind of product or system to find a vulnerability or exploit in it, or do anything else that would be considered "hacker related" without someone holding your hand.

Kiddies="teach me"
Hackers="let me teach myself"

syxx@attrition.org

[evilseed]

n0w j00 kn0w 1 w1ll h4v3 t0 p057 0n th15 0ne.



j/k


heh/... so what does he want? someone to hack his girlfriends hotmail password?

[freeOn]

OK the regular AntiOnline flame isn't going up on this one, maybe because the word hotmail isn't involved. lol.

Some good info, If your living in the U.S. the government passed something called the anti-terroism act, which I suggest you look into before you convince yourself you want to take a path that could end you up in jail for a life long time.

Also asking someone to teach you is like cheating on the SAT's, you might remeber bytes and pieces but won't fully understand.
Also most people who are hackers, hardly ever teach people on the net because they can't verify you. Which should make sense.

Anyway read books, tutorials and vulnerability's, Go to computer gatherings, either gaming or some type of Lan party. Try hooking up your own home network and breaking into that. The best advice is not to hack at all. But there are legal ways such as hacker wargames. http://www.hackerslab.org or http://www.cyberarmy.com . I suggest trying those to start, both of them really test your dedication and knowledge.


One question once you hack into a computer what are you going to do with it? and is it really worth it ?

[WiSe-OnE]

if i wanted to hack a hotmail account id do it my self u jack ass!
thats what progz r for as for the rest of u saying that no one could show u how to hack,thats not wut i meant just kinda understand it better.i think thats the best way to put it ne way thanx for the replies ~1~

[WiSe-OnE]

SORRY

[WiSe-OnE]

I DIDNT SAY I WOULD HACK INTO A COMPUTER OR DO NOTHING WITH IT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS BETTER AND HHAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF HACKING.~1~

[jcdux]

Fine.
Read books.
Set-up your own network
test and learn on that.

[Syxx]

TALKING IN ALL CAPS WILL MAKE YOU SOUND SMARTER AND MORE PEOPLE WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

syxx@attrition.org

[freeOn]

if i wanted to hack a hotmail account id do it my self u jack ass!

Well now one ever meant that you were dumbass skript Kiddie hotmail hacker. All I was stating was that Anti-Online does get the usuall idiot that comes in here and asks how to hack hotmail.


I DIDNT SAY I WOULD HACK INTO A COMPUTER OR DO NOTHING WITH IT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS BETTER AND HHAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF HACKING.~1~

Thanks for using Caps, My EYESIGHT IS STARTING TO GO!

So your saying you don't know how to hack but also that you could hack hotmail. To me sounds like another Skript Kiddie. Also please use the Correct term, Jack Ass is kind of childish and only proves to people that you are of low inteligence and jealous because my Ass is bigger and more attractive then yours. I know I have everything in life, the knowledge of hacking and girls.

The info you got here was the best, because AO is the best. Take our advice. It's the way TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS BETTER AND HHAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF HACKING.~1~ [/QUOTE]

[Ennis]

Hacking hotmail is done through social engineering usually and involves no actual hacking skills as any exploits have bben fixed.

There was ways but they are no more.

Anyone who hacks hotmail is not a hacker in any way. Think of taking 500 hotmail accounts and how many peoples passwords are :

password
their name
and other assorted guessable passwords.

Brute forcing is no non-existant as measures have been taken against multiple password attempts.

Just something Id thought Id add.

[blayde]

{One more thing if youre interested in hacking remember this, hackers o things ontheir own, learn for themselves.}

ENNIS


well said ennis, agreed 100%

Take the time to learn on your own, you will gain a much better appreciation for the knowledge you attain. Simply sucking off someone else show's that you want to be a hacker over-night.....I promise you, it won't happen. Just sit back and watch what others say, remember their words, and then research it for yourself. It will take time but you can learn.....
----blayde----

[ThePreacher]

Kiddies="teach me"
Hackers="let me teach myself"


If this is what you think then you are way off. Anyone with the will to learn can be a hacker, and sometimes it takes other people helping before you can learn to do it on your own. On the other when you teach yourself, sometimes you make things harder than they have to be and someone else can show you an easier way. This is my theory.

Kiddies="No will to learn just do without thinking"
Hackers="Will to learn and be taught"

[WiSe-OnE]

for one thing i didnt say i was ****ing retarted man.i know a good amount about hacking,yes enough to hack hot mail.the caps was an accident.and yeah thats wut progz r for i could do it the difficult way with telnet(no this isnt that difficult)but y when i have progz that do it.ne way im not sum ******* who wants elite so to speak to do shit for me.thats all i have to say im out!

[WiSe-OnE]

actually u r a jack ass cuz i was referin to the person who said what does this one want a password to his girl friends e mail account.u didnt say that now did u,so technicaly u shouldnt post thats stupid shit bout me being jealous.in ne way now u know u had absolutly no room to talk cuz it wasnt ur damn buisness...so shut the **** up deal?

[Focmaester]

You know what the problem is with people like you "wise-one"
all you want is a one time use, how to **** over hotmail so u can just get a password off your bitches acounts.
that's all, you don't have passion for knowledge, you don't want to see the steps you want action.
That's why you turn to programs but you still insist you can do it on your own. Well I doubt it, hotmail doesn't run on any windows version but unix.
And anybody who disagrees with that READ.
Hotmail whas never owned by M$ they bought it and kept running ti pretty much the same and have admitted that shamefully they haven't changed it's OS to wintel.

[RiOtEr]

just a though this should have been flamed by negatiff where is he neone seen him for ages???

btw elite ppl do exist take JP for example and me j/k but in all seroiusness ull never get newhere withouht reading i have about 400 meg of docs on my computer and a few books so go out their and get some i would recomend

hacking exposed second edition

[Ennis]

just a though this should have been flamed by negatiff where is he neone seen him for ages???

He's named Negative not negatiff?
He wouldnt bother flaming an unintelligent post like this, he usually only flames for a good reason and through flaming actually helps the person. He is around still posting, just keep an eye out youll see his posts.

[freeOn]

actually u r a jack ass cuz i was referin to the person who said what does this one want a password to his girl friends e mail account.u didnt say that now did u,so technicaly u shouldnt post thats stupid shit bout me being jealous.in ne way now u know u had absolutly no room to talk cuz it wasnt ur damn buisness...so shut the **** up deal?

Oh did I hurt your feelings? No we don't have a deal, When you post things up here your making it anyones bussiness. Obviously you are still jealous and now that you know that I get chicks with it, it makes you even more jealous. You shouldn't try to live in other peoples shoes. Try to make your own set of footprints.

Well I hope you understand, and realize your mistakes.
You should also get somthing for that temper of yours, it's not healthy to say bad words to people.

[Remote_Access_]

Well... i've came in on the ass end of this post but i've decided to post my comments any way. i think the so called "wiseone" needs to do what you've previously suggested... go read some books at your local library or online and after you get done, READ, READ, and REAd some more. you may or may not be interested but, learning a few programing languages wouldn't hurt. If i were you i'd start out with HTML.
good luck,
Remote_Access_

[Ennis]

HTML is not really a programming language, if it is, its very low level to say the least.
To learn HTML just get a good tutorial nearly anywhere and learn it in a day or two then move onto something more challenging like using Clip Art in Word.

[madhatt3r]

Alright, Im not trying to be one of the people that flameewbies just cause they are new. But try reading some cisco networking books. Learn linux. and the only text file I have ever found in any way useful is the guide to mostly harmless hacking which is available in the text area of this site. good luck and dont use l33t speak on boards its like doing the macarena at a rave.

[madhatt3r]

Just so you know. I cant type right now. that was supposed to be flame newbies. lol I withold the reason I cant type right now

[RiOtEr]

hey sorry ennis i was going off his old icq contact but neway
this post seems quite energetic but all i can say is what i said before Read books :D

[neophyte00]

HOTMAIL....JEEZE THATS DUM
IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING BOUT THE PERSON YOU CAN BE IN THREE MINS...DUDE YOU DONT GET LIKE A MENTOR OR ANYTHING YOU GOTTA READ EVERTHING YOU SEE.. THE POWER OF A SEARCH ENGINE IS THE KEY...DOGPILE.COM, ALTAVISTA, HOTBOT.COM, PLUS AOUT TEN MORE... BOUT THE ONLY PLACE THAT I HAVE FOUND THAT WILL GIVE A GUIDE TO HACKING IN A LANGUAGE A NEWBIE CAN UNDERSTAND IS THE HAPPY HACKER WEBSITE, ITS CALLED GUIDES TO MOSTLY HARMLESS HACKING, YEAH I KNOW TO THE REST OF YOU THAT SEEMS LAME BUT IT WILL GIVE A GOOD FELL FOR THINGS TO A NEWBIE, AND OF COURSE THESE FORUMS AND ANY OTHER FORUMES (HACKERS.COM)...I HAVE NOT GIVEN THE HAPPY HACKER WEBSITE TO YOU TO EMPAHSIZE YOUR FIRST LESSON FIND IT YOURSELF.......

[Ennis]

That post MADE MY EYES BLEED, remove the damn CAPS LOCK.

[RiOtEr]

whats all that noise?? ahh right someones yealling for no reason :mad:

[Bug_Master]

#include<stdio.h>
#include<stdlib.h>

void solution(char name_for_solution[]);

void main(void)
{
char name[10];

printf("Enter your name: ");
gets(name);
system("cls");
solution(name);

}


void solution(char name_for_solution[])
{


printf("%s, understanding what this does is a good start!\n\n",name_for_solution);
system("pause");

}




/* Try to understand what does this do and you are in the good way... i think*/

[Oblivious]

ok, first off wise one ... lighten up man... you cant come in, ask for help then abuse people coz you didnt get the answer you wanted...damn....

anyhow.. i have to say reading is the best way......

bin the online articles till later... go buy some books....happy hacker is a good base.. but it will only get you so far.. after that maximum security books and hacking exposed are pretty cool...

im reading HACK I.T. security through penetration testing.......its pretty good.... but remember all the other technical related books you got to read too....TCP/IP, netwroking, etc... if you read back over this thread some excelklant books have been mentioned....

then after all that you can go hack your womans hotmail ...*snicker* sorry just had to throw that in...

[souleman]

Ahh, people are replying to a thread that hasn't had a post since November of last year.... A thread over 6 months old getting replies is disturbing.

[Negative]

What Souleman said.