Would anyone HELP !!

[bimmer]

OK ... I’m a newbie ... and as I listed a post before .... I’ve been hacked ..... :umph:
my hotmail ... my hard drive ... everything ....
and I’m looking to be a hacker :shocked: ... OK I know it's not that simple ....

but as Chinese says :
A single conversation with a wise man is better than ten years of study

so .. I asked few guys about what to do ... but i have now a sub7 installed on my PC and an anti-hack program ... to watch my ports ...

but eventhow I don't know how to use both ... :what:

so anyone reach my post .... Pls. HELP ... :cry:

and as Norman B. Rice says:
Dare to reach out your hand into the darkness, to pull another hand into the light.

:lildevil:If you can't feed a hundred people, then feed just one. ~Mother Teresa

[l3aDmOnKeY]

I am sorry i did not see your first post. So...
How do you know you have been hacked?
Do u know by who?
What are u needing help with? firewall? anti-virus?
As for hotmail.... if you would like to know some tricks about it just email me.

[Ennis]

Ok first of all why get revenge, besides this is not a hacker/cracker site and will not teach you to use Sub7 or How to Hack Hotmail.

Why not secure yourself against future attacks instead of putting yourself into danger of retalitary attacks from people you use Sub7 on or hack their hotmail accounts.

Is it worth it, I doubt it.

Please reconsider taking up a cracker mentality due to the actions of a malicious user.

[bimmer]

thanks guys for the advise .... but i didn't decide to hack .. until i got hacked...

but what i believe in ... the defense is to attack ....
if someone hack u ... get him hacked .. it might be a lesson for him ....

if u have a better solution .. please don't hesitate ...

[l3aDmOnKeY]

I agree with Ennis. Just secure yourself and learn from your mistakes. I use BlackIce Defender myself. Go buy a copy a use it. or any other firewall of ur perfence.

[siC]

I found THIS (http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm) story a couple days ago... in the end, he says something like "black ice defender sucks" ... mabey not those words, but he did mean it :)

hmm, is he talking crap or is the black ice defender firewall sucky? :)

I use Norton Personal Firewall 2002... bad choice?

hmm, can I use 2 diffirent firewalls at the same time... or does it conflict?


gah! SORRY for my bad english, hope you understand me though :)

[pwaring]

In future:

1. Don't use Hotmail, it's a prime target for crackers, try another email provider (PostMaster (http://www.postmaster.co.uk/) has always been good to me).

2. Use a sensible subject for your posts 'Would anyone Help' does not tell us anything about what you want help with.

3. Don't panic. Calm down and compose a proper post and we might be able to help you.

4. Don't try and get your own back until you know what you are doing, and even then consider whether it's really worth the bother.

5. Go and download Zone Alarm from the Zone Labs website (http://www.zonelabs.com) and install it on your computer. It's the best firewall product I've ever used and should keep out all but the most determined of crackers.

6. Remember, it's 'crackers' not 'hackers'. :D

[Ennis]

The bast solution is not to attack, it only aggravates the situation and you may mess with a malicious unrelenting hacker who will destroy your lovely puter.

Its easy to be a malicious person, its harder to be an ethical person, take the challenge and go ethical. ;)

As for firewalls, ZoneAlarm (http://www.zonelabs.com) is an ok firewall, BlackIce (http://www.networkice.com) is not really a firewall in its truest sense and well I use and like NeoWatch and NeoTrace (http://www.neoworx.com).

However choose the firewall that suits you.
Just because others find ZoneAlarm suits them dosent mean you wont get along more with Tiny Personal Firewall and so on.

Good Luck by the way.
;)

[ThePreacher]

Are you trying to say you were hacked and someone infected you with the sub7 trojan, or that you were hacked now you are going to use sub7 for revenge? If its the latter, I'd hate to inform you this, but this isnt hacking. This is a skript kiddiot program that in order to use, you must break many laws and infect many people with this trojan. Then after you infect those people, you perform distributed denial of service attacks on your victim. So in order to get revenge, you must break into other peoples computers. This is what happened to you and you did not like it, so how do you think 300 others would like it. Many might want revenge on you for wasting their bandwidth and illegally hiding your program on their computers. Is it worth it for revenge against 1 user to harm several hundred others? I dont think so.

[bimmer]

you know what guys ..... I really started to love this site ..... it's like a family ...bawling... all cares about your problem ...

anyway .... , I think u r saying the right thing to be done

and i'll just go on and start surfing these sites for good firewalls .....

and for sure no, i don't want for others to get hurt by my side ... as what happened to me ... by cracker or a shitty hacker ....
and i don't want to be a hacker any more .... maybe a small cracker .. :D .... i don't think anyone would mind that !!!

many thanks guys for all help .... hope that one day u'll find me as an active member .... and helping other people ...

Many laws as certainly make bad men, as bad men make many laws. ~Walter Savage

[Ennis]

Hey nice to see you change your mind and come to the good side.

;)

[bimmer]

thanks .... my final Q will be .... is there a special way to uninstall the sub7 ... or i just press delete ? :what:

[VictorKaum]

A good virusscanner will clean up the mess for you.

the easiest firewall to use is probably the free ZoneAlarm
but there are other good firewalls, too --> sygate has a good personal firewall for free.

www.sygate.com

[protocool]

guess if you want to be a true hacker learn the best simple principle.

'do programs to hack'

if you know how to program basically you know how to hack. i've learned that from my it teacher when im doing my masters degree in information technology. (duh?!).

[magic1]

hello

they had put a keylogger in your computer or the new subseven cgi that open ports in your machine and send the passwords to the internet.In this way they had your hotmail password.
Try to scan yoour computer ports from 1024 --->
SuperScan is good on that .
See your services running in your computer check the file internet.exe .There are not antiviruses that block tha file used from SubSeven cgi .
And about a firewall get WINROUTE Pro is the best one .

the best Revenge is when you make your system strong and let them understand that you don't care about the attack
If you had the subseven cgi in your computer let us know and i will tell you which is the best revenge.

i hope this helps

bye

[bimmer]

actually guys ... if we keep going like this ... probably I’ll be done when I’m 70 years old ...

each time someone reply to the post he list me a new site or shortcut or even a software ....

now it's really mixing me up .....

but back to ur Q. Magic1 , yes i do have the subseven cgi ....

is there something special whit this ... ??

and by the way Protocool ... after all i'm a programmer too .... C & Assembly .... plus some visual stuff .... it was long time since i programmed something, but my last work was a virus .....

and i don't thing it's that hard being a hacker , all u have to do is get into security stuff .... coupled with good programming .... and a good mind ....
and there u r .... hacker gates ... :)

[magic1]

ok
i mean if you were infected????/
just check your logs and see where the subseven cgi is sending the information . then open the url in your browser and send there some false information.the url seems like this http://domain/subseven.cgi?ip=is your ip &.........
send the false information and wait to see which ip is interesed in the port number that you gave .then you have who is hacking you . or make a program calling that url in infinit messing up the database .They usually use Prohosting.

But first if you have the URL THEN email the owner of the page and tell them that they are infected too.

I HOPE THIS HELPS

[bimmer]

ok, what i did ... is a virus scan for my system ... and as expected all sub7 files were black listed , so i deleted all of them ,.. and then i deleted the whole folder of the sub7 ... and run the anti virus again but founded nothing ... so i thought this way .. i'm safe ...

what do u think ... is it ok ....

and by the way .. is the sub7 a security or hacking program ?

:rolleyes:

[RejectKnowledge]

Well well...

Considering I'm from the Middle East too ( IT SNOWED IN SAUDI AFTER 40 YEARS! WoO WoOO! ) I can imagine what might have happened to you, bimmer. The little kiddies here with their 'I can use WinZip, I'm HackMaster!" attitudes are annoying. I'm guessing that you were 'hacked' by a similar little kiddie who infected you by Sub7, and managed to '0wn' you. Sad isn't it? But those trojans are flying around here like nobody's business.

Sub7 is NOT a hacking program. Its simply a program that, in professional terms, 'allows some machine remote access to another machine'. But we prefer to call them "Really Anooying Crap Called Trojans'. All it does is it opens a hidden port on your machine, and allows people to access your machine ( without your knowledge ) through it.

I've seen 14 year olds brag about themselves being 'The Best Hacker In Bahrain / Abu Dhabi / Oman " because they read the text file that came with BO, Sub7, GirlFriend etc and figured out how to use them. That, and lame DoS attacks like Winnuke and WinGenocide. heh heh. The best protection against the Arabian Hacker is to not accept any .exe or .com etc file from them. And run a firewall. Thats just about it!


I would suggest 'TheCleaner' as a good trojan removing tool. There should me some good tools in the Security Downloads sections right here on AO.

Cheers, man...
:cool:

[bimmer]

so u live in KSA ... i think if u r not an arab origin ... it some how hard there for u ... ok ... i'm from Jordan ... and it snows evry year ...

but, back to my issue .... as i said befor ... i did download the sub7 on my station ... thought it will make me a simeHacker ....
... anyway Ennis changed my mind about it ... and i'm more interested in learning security ....

thanks for the advice ... i'll search around for the cleaner .. as u told me .. in the AO ..
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I would suggest 'TheCleaner' as a good trojan removing tool. There should me some good tools in the Security Downloads sections right here on AO.
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enjoy the snow ...


ciao'
;)

[c0re]

agreed an eye for an eye does not work. knowledge of protecting yourself is where it is at. the people that took the time to reply to this post have a general care and love for computing. dont turn around and betray the advice that has been given here.

[XTC46]

First off that is a horrible reason to learn how to hack. Im sorry but that is the kind of stuff that gives hackers a bad name. second, unless you know who hacked you then you are going to just target a random person and then make them mad. third, if you dont know how to use your tools you shouldnt have them, and because you dont know how to hack the chances of you messing up and hitting an inocent is much higher. you shoudl really re think you decision and just try to protect your self with better firewalls etc.. I personnaly am behind 3 fire walls, I have my mcaffee sofware firewall, I have my router/firewall, and I have a stand alone firewall. I have been hacked then I learned to defend my self. If I cantch anyone trying to hack em now the first thing I do is get their Ip, then I send them a nice message that I kow they are trying to get to my comp, then laugh as they disconnect and run. you should do the same.

[Tedob1]

here's an excellent reason NOT to drag up old posts. the Bimmer that wrote this post is not the same bimmer we know and love today. He is a valuable member of this community.

Please read the more current posts, like this one:

http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=243267

before you get yourselves in trouble

[n01100110]

A couple of years ago , my system got infected with sub seven and it was a big mess.But i found something that can help you.
www.simplysup.com
Download trojan remover and everything should be fine.
:)
-N