Linux help

[rootman147]

I have a Radeon 32M SDR PCI 3D graphics card. I have RH 6.0 and I can't get the KDE to work. I have all my monitor pecs. Ihve all the information except fr whichVideo Card Driver to use. Mine wasn't listed. I tried to get version 4.2.0 from www.xfree6.org but it won't install I think I got the wrong binaries and they don't have ones that match my box. Is there a way to use a earlier version t make it work? Just some 1024 x 768 res wih no 3d ccel is fin for now. So any help with this problem is appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

--RoOtMaN147

[Conf1rm3d_K1ll]

Originally posted by rootman147
I have RH 6.0 and I can't get the KDE to work. I have all my monitor pecs. Ihve all the information except fr whichVideo Card Driver to use. Mine wasn't listed. --RoOtMaN147


I had a similar problem. Solution - update RedHat! I think the latest release is RedHat 7.2? I'm not quite sure...Although I do know that version 6.0 is getting a little outdated.

I'm still running Redhat 7 and even simple things like screen resolution are extremely frustrating.


Perhaps it's a fault in the KDE directory? Try and boot up using GNOME. I know I haven't been very helpful but I'm a bit of a newbie myself when it comes to LINUX. All those rpm, tar.gz, Xfree86 and stuff like that can be a little confusing. I'm sure when people like petemcevoy, linuxcommando and miss mittens read this thread your problem will be solved in an instant...

[hogfly]

Your card is too new for version 6.0 to begin with....
have you checked on hardware.redhat.com for compatibilty or community knowledge regarding that card ?


I do happen to agree that upgrading would help your situation. you could try a few solutions other than mucking around with your XF86Config though. xvidtune or Xconfigurator are two helpful programs for configging RH. you should be able to download the RPM's for them.

Since your card will not have drivers listed, Xconfigurator allows you to set custom settings for video card and monitor frequencies. *****before you modufy settings make sure you know what they should be*******

ATI should have info on your card, and the monitor should have a white tag on the back of it(if it's not in the list) with refresh rates and such.

again...upgrading would be the simplest solution. and yes 7.2 is the newest version of red hat.

join us in irc.antionline.com for real-time help.

[oblio]

Do not listen to idiot confirmed kill, you do not need a newer version of redhat, just download the latest stable kernel's source.

[Conf1rm3d_K1ll]

Originally posted by oblio
Do not listen to idiot confirmed kill, you do not need a newer version of redhat, just download the latest stable kernel's source.


My God you are an idiot. You're getting worse, oblio.


I think I have you nearly figured out. It's alot easier for you to make a name for yourself here by being an idiot rather than trying to play by the rules, so that's what you do. But deep down you hate yourself for it so you keep coming back trying to make an intellectual post once a month, but rightly so, no one cares what you have to say....Even if you're 100% correct you've done that much damage to yourself that no one is interested in what you have to say...You're like a fly at a BBQ. There's not much anyone can do about it, it's just something you have to put up with, rather annoying...


You lost all respect from me after your "Godspeed" thread...LOL... I can see it now....some dark little room in Canada with GS playing some typically melancholy crap and Chemical and yourself slowly nodding your head ( you're both too cool to actually move significantly) thinking "****, we're cool...." LOL...


Go back to your 3 string bass, oblio. You're getting boring.

[Vorlin]

Do not listen to idiot confirmed kill, you do not need a newer version of redhat, just download the latest stable kernel's source.

Just for reference, running 'up2date -u' after you register on Redhat's Network will update all your packages and if you're running the graphical version of it, you can pick and choose what packages you want to update or ignore. These include the kernel updates but are left unchecked as updating the kernel incorrectly (not a newbie issue) can damage and/or destroy your current kernel and booting isn't an option after that.

Moral of the story: kernel source is incorrect and misleading, either update redhat via the method shown above (up2date -u after running rhn_register), or keep KDE running in 1024x768@32. XFree86.org should get support for your card soon enough.

Disclaimer: I'm not a guru of X at all since I run CLI most of the time or ssh in. I do know that you don't need the kernel source for an X configuration. Xconfigurator should be beneficial to tuning as hogfly stated. Get to know that as well as the others he mentioned.

[ThePreacher]

Originally posted by Conf1rm3d_K1ll



My God you are an idiot. You're getting worse, oblio.


I think I have you nearly figured out. It's alot easier for you to make a name for yourself here by being an idiot rather than trying to play by the rules, so that's what you do. But deep down you hate yourself for it so you keep coming back trying to make an intellectual post once a month, but rightly so, no one cares what you have to say....Even if you're 100% correct you've done that much damage to yourself that no one is interested in what you have to say...You're like a fly at a BBQ. There's not much anyone can do about it, it's just something you have to put up with, rather annoying...


You lost all respect from me after your "Godspeed" thread...LOL... I can see it now....some dark little room in Canada with GS playing some typically melancholy crap and Chemical and yourself slowly nodding your head ( you're both too cool to actually move significantly) thinking "****, we're cool...." LOL...


Go back to your 3 string bass, oblio. You're getting boring.

Well look at what his response suggests, and I agree with him. Continue using redhat 6, but you can update your kernel to the newest version for more support. Also get the drivers for linux for the video card. I had a similar problem trying to get x windows to work with my geforce2. If you weed through the insults, oblio makes some sense. No offense Conf1rm3d_K1ll.

[Vorlin]

If you weed through the insults, oblio makes some sense.

I disagree. The only area of any real expertise that oblio has is in java, a point he makes rather extravagantly by putting everyone who's ever posted on java (myself included) down. You do NOT need to update your kernel to the latest source when the issue at hand is dealing with a driver that's not supported by X. X does NOT modify the kernel during installation and hence, doesn't need anything added to the kernel for it to work. Video card drivers are a different story and if you have to add a module for your card to the kernel, that's done via modprobe, and insmod, not through the building of a kernel which requires a reboot as the new kernel is moved into place and the old one is saved. oblio didn't make any of these notifications and if rootman147 listened to him, he'd have gone and updated something that didn't need to be updated and *still* have the problem he has now, KDE not working.

[hogfly]

ok guys, back to the topic.

Vorlin I don't think that up2date will work in this case, since up2date is now a pay service, and if its version 6, I don't know if it will work anymore. I do agree with the insmod and modprobe.. Don't forget the depmod -ae. ;)

anyways, rootman you might as well get with the times and upgrade.

and if you really needed help you might show up in IRC.

[chsh]

Oblio, TP, you're both mistaken. I had (until I upgraded to RH 7.1) an RH 6.0 box at home running on top of my Radeon 64MB VIVO DDR. All you need to do is upgrade X from 4.0.3(I think) to 4.1.0. The driver support for the Radeon from 4.0.x > 4.1.0 was amazing.

I'd recommend updating Xwindows before you do any messing around with your kernel. That's like suggesting that you fix the crack in the windshield by replacing the engine of the car.

[the_JinX]

I'm behind chsh..
my prophetII gave similar problems..
Newer versions of Xfree are manditory...

[souleman]

You could always dump Xfree86, and get one of the xwindows systems that you have to pay for. But that would just be insane. Instead, you should upgrade x. The kernal should have nothing to do with it, as long has you have the proper libraries to put the latest version of X on your system. They may be the biggest problem. You will probably have to update most of your libs just to get the latest version of X to install. Like a couple people said, the easist, and fastest way, is to upgrade RedHat. 7.2 has some worthwhile features, like ext3fs, which is great compared to ext2fs. If nothing else, that is pretty much worth while.

And besides, if you still need help, you can use mIRC (www.mirc.com) and point it at irc.antionline.com , some of the people in there should be able to help you out.

[Rewandythal]

1) Try an updated XFree86 version, 4.1.0, I think it is, But I'm not certain on that!
failing that,
2) go to the web site for your graphics card maufacturer, and see if they have a linux driver
failing that
3) follow the other advice here, update RedHat itself, or try something el;se

If you're downloading an updated XFree86, get an RPM version for RedHat - it *should* work!
Finally, updating KDE or GNOME will (as far as I know) make no difference, because they are window managers, not the GUI itselrf. You need to have a working X system before you can run any window manager - which means setting the right graphics adaptor (usually it detects something similar that is compatible, like an older version of the same adaptor range, at least, Mandrake 7 and above usually seems to do that, from my experience. Apart from that, if its a RedHat specific problem I can't really suggest anything else, since I use Mandrake, although I have tried RedHat 5 before, and I am always on the lookout for cheap CDs with the latest versuions of any Linux Distribution on.

[rootman147]

Thanks guys I downloaded the Mandrake 8.1 ISOs and instaed Xfree86 4.2.0 and everything works great!

[Rewandythal]

You'll like Mandrake, most people do - apart from the people who want raw power rather than a working alternative to Windows... I use Mandrake as a machine to do everything Windows does only faster and better, but if i was creating a linux box as a server ONLY, not a workstation as well, I'd either install Mandrake without X and KDE, or I'd put Debian or something on it!

But yeah, Mandrake is great for general work, and it runs fine as a server, I mean, I work on it all the time and all the while its running apache, wu_ftpd, sendmail...

[rootman147]

I'm glad you mentioned that, I am building a new box in my basement to act as a webserver for my new company. (I am not at liberty to discuss it yet) What would be a good distro to use and what should I do in terms of security. It'll be connected via Optimum Online and a Motorola SB4100 Modem

[chsh]

Rootman wrote:
I'm glad you mentioned that, I am building a new box in my basement to act as a webserver for my new company. (I am not at liberty to discuss it yet) What would be a good distro to use and what should I do in terms of security. It'll be connected via Optimum Online and a Motorola SB4100 Modem

I know many people who use Redhat as their webserver. RH 7.1 and up is a great webserver because it comes with TUX, which is probably the fastest webserver there is at serving static content. Apache is good for dynamic content.

In terms of security, I'd turn of all unnecessary services, and configure your firewall to reject any and all connections to your box except TCP and UDP port 80. The distros themselves are pretty well similar when it comes to webservers, basically you end up with Linux running Apache. If you'd like, you can email me privately on the matter, and I can give you some info on what I've done with Apache in the past. Me email address is chsh1ca@yahoo.ca.