gnome

[gold eagle]

downloaded this today and popped it on wkstn. Looks real slick, already like it better than cde.

If anyone is interested, it is 1.4 on Solx86.

already thinking about version 2 coming out for sol 9

[thesecretfire]

What exactly are GNOME and KDE?

[{P²P}Apocalypse]

Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=219780#post459643) by thesecretfire
What exactly are GNOME and KDE?
Very simply put. A desktop inviroment sort of like Windows. In other words. A graphical interface for Linux. :D

[thesecretfire]

So they're an alternative to X-windows?

[s0nIc]

they were designed for people who cant let go of their mouse and HAVE to HAVE GUI.. so yeah.. especially for those who just left Windows and started in Linux.. so you have two choices of GUI Interface, gnome or KDE..

I prefer KDE coz it has more toys to play wid than gome.. hahaha

I think both GNOME and KDE uses x-windows for their GUI look..

[rootman147]

Whats the diff between CDE and KDE?

[3ntropy]

He made a mistake, a typo, he meant kde not cde.

[llipschutz]

GNOME and KDE run ON x-windows. . .

It's like this:
X is the skeleton, KDE or GNOME are the flesh and muscles that you see.

[3ntropy]

Hey llipshutz,
Gnome and KDE do not run on windows, they are not associated with it in any way. Gnome and KDE are Graphical User Interfaces, for Linux. To explain that very crudely, they are the pictures that Linux uses for people who like their OS to look "neat" and so that they can keep on holding on to their mouse, like sonic said.

[cgkanchi]

3ntropy, llipschutz said X-Windows and not Windows. GNOME and KDE are what are called desktop environments for X. The real difference between GNOME and KDE is the API used. GNOME uses an opensource API called tk (and it's extensions gtk and gtk+) while KDE uses another API called Qt. Qt was originally a properitery API which was why development on GNOME started as someone wanted a totally open desktop environment. However, the KDE project itself was conceived as an alternative to CDE (Common Desktop Environment), which was a commercial project. However, Trolltech has now decided to release Qt under the GPL and thus, the whole point of starting the GNOME project is defeated. The GNOME project is just too far along to stop now, though and development on both KDE and GNOME continues. I personally, prefer KDE but I have a feeling that GNOME 2.0 will kick a$$ (considering the major improvements from version1.2 to version 1.4).
Cheers,
cgkanchi

[souleman]

Actually, I am not sure if it still exists, but CDE used to stand for Common Desktop Environment. IT was supposed to be a standard X client that would run on any unix variant. It would make it possible to sit down at any *nix, and be able to know where everything was.

There are many different clients out there. Sawfish, enlightenment, gnome, kde, etc etc. Gnome and KDE are just the most popular, and probably the best developed.

[Terr]

My understanding was that the X-windows system is basically a method for rendering and sending information regarding the windows to a client (although with X-windows, for some reason, they like to switch around 'client' and 'server' definitions due to the way it works, I'm speaking from the 'who has the cards = Server' standpoint.)

GNOME and KDE are sort of like... Themes, if you will. No, scrap that... They're window managers. Without them, all you get is a window that is fixed on the desktop. They provide the buttons (close, maximize, minimize, window-shade) the resizing things, the mouse cursors, any task-bar-like things on the bottom of the screen, the scrollbars, what mouse clicks do what, what hotkeys do what, etc.

So it's a bit like having an engine, seats, and wheels as X-windows. KDE or Gnome would give you the steering, the doors, the body of the car, the paint on it, the dashboard accessories...

[RiOtEr]

just my usless info but gnome 2 was released so go get it slashdot has a link to it so hehe

[gold eagle]

Souleman you seem to be the only one who correctly id'd cde. It IS the common desktop env of solaris. So no, I didn't mean kde guys. Gnome will move on due to SUN's committment to it replacing solaris' own dt. RiOtEr - I thought that was the beta 2.0 - do you know if it is?
Gnome is like a gui for many ux not just linux. It'll run on x86 or sparc or....

Try it out if you don't like your kde, otherwise kde is just fine by itself. good replys all.

[k41d3r07h]

gnome 2 is still in beta, I have had way too many bad experiences with gnome beta releases...I think I'll wait for the real thing

[gold eagle]

Well I can't get it to keep file associations...there must be a setting here somewhere....