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Easeupyo
March 7th, 2002, 08:34 PM
If one, take away it's opposite; twice as many.

garathjax
March 7th, 2002, 09:56 PM
What, pray tell, is that susposed to mean?

Easeupyo
March 7th, 2002, 10:18 PM
Zero times zero ate infinity.

stflook
March 7th, 2002, 10:25 PM
Oh god.
Not another lamer.....

valhallen
March 8th, 2002, 12:10 PM
If one, take away it's opposite; twice as many.
ok if u take 1 as something then its opposite would be nothing which is 0
then 1-0=1 not as you said 2 (twice as many)

Zero times zero ate infinity
Am assuming you mean zero times zero is infinity not ate :)

but am afraid 0x0=0
nothing multiplied by nothing is still nothing ;)

v_Ln

RiOtEr
March 8th, 2002, 01:35 PM
half full = half empty
therefor empty = full i read that somewhere and it stuck lol
ohh well
its funny and makes u think a little bit
cya
RiOtEr

Tim_axe
March 8th, 2002, 02:34 PM
Is he meaning one, minus its opposite (negative one), gets two? That's all I can think of to have it make sense, 1 -- 1 = 2, because taking away a negative is the same as adding the positive (1 + 1 = 2)...

On of my teachers says 'well, it depends on how u look at it...' Normally this is talking about a test or something, you can say you got half the answers wrong, or half of them right... Oh, well......

-Tim_axe

SarinMage
March 8th, 2002, 04:05 PM
put 0 on top of 0.

you get an 8

turn it on its side
what do you get?

Flibberdy
March 8th, 2002, 04:23 PM
Here's somethign to think about.
X^0=1, for all values of X
so => 0^0 = 1.. but it isn't.. any1 care to explain why, coz it has me flummoxed

Those late night drinking/thinking sessions are really not a good idea...

Flibberdy

chsh
March 8th, 2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=221183#post470472) by SarinMage
put 0 on top of 0.

you get an 8

turn it on its side
what do you get?

A nice pair of ASCII glasses? ;)

Seriously though, it'd be the symbol for infinity.

Here's a good question: What's the value of 22/7?

SarinMage
March 8th, 2002, 06:31 PM
good job. therefore 0+0=Infinite

Negative
March 8th, 2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by chsh
Here's a good question: What's the value of 22/7?

22/7 is used by lazy students who aren't capable of remembering 3.14159265358979.... (Pi, that is).... 22/7 is close enough, but it ain't the real thing ;)

chsh
March 8th, 2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=221183#post470556) by Negative


22/7 is used by lazy students who aren't capable of remembering 3.14159265358979.... (Pi, that is).... 22/7 is close enough, but it ain't the real thing ;)

LOL! Good answer!

ZeroOne
March 9th, 2002, 09:30 PM
22/7=3.1428571428571428571428571428571
pi=3.141592653589793238462643383279, get more at http://users.pandora.be/gotte/Coolstuff/pi.htm .

Other nice math related pages:

Big Numbers: http://www.ecstaticfuturist.com/MiscInfo/numbers.html (did you know that 10^111 is called sextrigintillion?-)

The Prime Pages: http://www.utm.edu/research/primes/ (7919 is the prime number #1000)

The 27 Conspiracy: http://www.lbstone.com/27/ (I don't know what to think about this...)

Hindsight
March 10th, 2002, 04:37 PM
I thought Pi was incalculable? If you want to use it and use it in all its irrational number-ness you have to go via 22/7 rather than 3.14...Because the latter is only a tiny part of Pi's value,

Are they still logging the value of Pi somewhere?

hindsight

Hindsight
March 10th, 2002, 04:37 PM
I thought Pi was incalculable? If you want to use it and use it in all its irrational number-ness you have to go via 22/7 rather than 3.14...Because the latter is only a tiny part of Pi's value,

Are they still logging the value of Pi somewhere?

hindsight

Negative
March 10th, 2002, 06:05 PM
From http://www.joyofpi.com/pifacts.htm

A number, represented by said letter, expressing the ratio of the circumference of a perfect circle to its diameter. The value of pi has been calculated to many millions of decimal places, to no readily apparent purpose: no perfect circles or spheres exist in nature, since matter is composed of atoms and therefore lumpy, not smooth. Nature
herself sometimes takes to rounding off the more extreme decimals of numbers when they get sufficiently small, as Prof. Heisenberg has pointed out. However, the continued extension of pi provides a harmless exercise of computer power which would otherwise be misused playing Quake or surfing pointless web sites.

22/7 is not even near pi, so using that one isn't such a good idea ;)

You can find the current record here (http://www.lacim.uqam.ca/piDATA/pi206billion.txt) and here's (http://www.hitachi.co.jp/Prod/comp/hpc/eng/sr81e.html) the box they used for it...

Negative
March 10th, 2002, 06:05 PM
From http://www.joyofpi.com/pifacts.htm

A number, represented by said letter, expressing the ratio of the circumference of a perfect circle to its diameter. The value of pi has been calculated to many millions of decimal places, to no readily apparent purpose: no perfect circles or spheres exist in nature, since matter is composed of atoms and therefore lumpy, not smooth. Nature
herself sometimes takes to rounding off the more extreme decimals of numbers when they get sufficiently small, as Prof. Heisenberg has pointed out. However, the continued extension of pi provides a harmless exercise of computer power which would otherwise be misused playing Quake or surfing pointless web sites.

22/7 is not even near pi, so using that one isn't such a good idea ;)

You can find the current record here (http://www.lacim.uqam.ca/piDATA/pi206billion.txt) and here's (http://www.hitachi.co.jp/Prod/comp/hpc/eng/sr81e.html) the box they used for it...

8*B@LL
March 11th, 2002, 06:27 AM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=221183#post470481) by Flibberdy
Here's somethign to think about.
X^0=1, for all values of X
so => 0^0 = 1.. but it isn't.. any1 care to explain why, coz it has me flummoxed

Those late night drinking/thinking sessions are really not a good idea...

Flibberdy

the rule is "x^0 = 1 for every value of X excluding 0"
0^0 is like saying 0/0...its undefined.

Negative
March 11th, 2002, 04:56 PM
Here's something I posted a while ago about division by zero...

Division by zero indeed is undefined, and it should stay that way.

Why? Because if you allow a 'Divide by Zero', you'll get things like this:

Premisse: a = b

1. a²=ab
Because a = b

2. a² + a² = a² + ab
Add a²

3. 2a² = a² + ab
x + x = 2x

4. 2a² - 2ab = a² + ab - 2ab
Add -2ab

5. 2a² - 2ab = a² - ab
xy - 2xy = -xy

6. 2(a² - ab) = 1(a² - ab)
Single out the factors

7. {2(a² - ab)} / {a² - ab} = {1(a² - ab)} / {a² - ab}
I'll get to this one in a few...

2 = 1


There you go: 2 = 1

A practical example:


Premise: a=2 and b=2

1. 2² = 2 x 2
2. 4 + 4 = 4 + 4
3. 2 x 4 = 4 + 4
4. 2 x 4 - 8 = 4 + 4 - 8
5. 2 x 4 - 2 x 4 = 4 - 4
6. 2(4 - 4) = 1(4 - 4)


Steps 1 - 6 are correct, but step 7 is why x / 0 should be undefined:


2 / (4 - 4) = 1 / (4 - 4)

gold eagle
March 11th, 2002, 05:52 PM
Negative - that is quite the signature.

ZeroOne
March 12th, 2002, 01:27 PM
22/7 is not even near pi, so using that one isn't such a good idea ;)
That's what I sort of tried to make clear in my message...

Hindsight: Yes, it is "incalculable", eg. endless eg. irrational. It cannot be expressed in any "r/q" way (so not 22/7 ;)) where r and q both belong to rational numbers. But you can always count more decimals for it. Try PiFast, http://numbers.computation.free.fr/Constants/PiProgram/pifast.html . It's widely used to measure the speed of the CPU, especially within the overclocking people. It calculates the first 5.000.000 decimals and gives you the time the job took (AMD Athlon XP 1900+ some 30 sec).
And if you read my previous message carefully, you'll find the link to a page which contains the first 100.000 decimals. ;)

Neg, you should have left the answer for "division by zero -> 1=2" as a hidden message, although I've read that a couple of times before. But other people might not have seen it before. :)

pwaring
March 12th, 2002, 01:30 PM
There is a far easier way to prove that 1 = 2, Negative (although this works on the same principle):

Assume: x=y
2x=2y
x-y=0
2x-2y=0
Therefore:
x-y=2x-2y
Factorise:
1(x-y)=2(x-y)
Divide by (x-y)
1 = 2

Of course this doesn't work because x-y=0 and you can't divide by zero without getting infinity or nonsense.

Just for thought:
What is 0/0 equal to? Answer, anything you want.
Assume 0/0 = 5 then multiply both sides by 0 you get 0=0
Assume 0/0 = 200 then multiply both sides by 0 you get 0=0
etc.

Flibberdy
March 12th, 2002, 09:50 PM
By Definition 22/7 isn't irrational.. an Irrational umber being defined as one which cannot be written as a fraction comprising of 2 integers.. If u want Pi in it's full magnificence then a Calculator's Pi button should suffice

Easeupyo
March 30th, 2002, 09:25 PM
6. 2(a² - ab) = 1(a² - ab)
Single out the factors


2a(a - b) = a(a - b)

there are many better ways to simplify
:o
and ofcourse 1 = 2 if a = b, or x = y...

it's like saying an apple's an orange, so deleware's in kansas
:rolleyes:

SarinMage
April 4th, 2002, 10:02 PM
interesting

nabylbt
April 10th, 2002, 06:32 PM
since we are all into maths ...
here is a cool one:
imagine an inifinite decreasing curve bounded by an horizonal asymptot having a precise are ...? possible or no ....