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ph4tty
March 8th, 2002, 08:10 PM
--originally by Bronc Buster

Tip #1 - Hacking, hacking is NOT e-mail bombing, being an IRC warrior or
harassing someone. It is the long honored trade of learning about Operating
Systems, Unix for expamle as it's the most popular, and getting to know how
it works inside and out. How to program for it, how to manipulate it and
control it. If you don't know about an Operating System you want to get
into, go learn about it. There is no magic command or word or program, that
I know of, that will let you get and takeover any system with a wave of a
wand. It just don't happen that way.

Tip #2 - This goes with Tip #1, go to school, or get some books and learn.
Read all you can about Unix, C and TCI/IP. I won't lie, it won't happen over
night, it's taken me 2 years of hard core dedication to get to the state I'm
at now, and still I can't keep up with it! For the begginner, get a book on
Unix, learn it, read it over and over until you KNOW it.

Tip #3 - Recources, and where do you get them? Well the best place to find
information on the latest security flaws and hole in not CERN. They post
only after the problem is fixed and every sysadmin and their mother knows
the fix. Go to News Groups. Not the lame ones like "alt.hackers", the only
people you find there are little kids on AOL wanting to know those magic
words. Get on groups like "comp.security.unix", these are where the BIG boys
hang out. The CEO from Sun Microsystmes posts to it, head honchos from
Novell and University Professiors all use these. They post questions and
possable fixes to holes no one has even thought about yet. They are gold
mines.

Tip #3 - I know this may sound lame to the more vetren hacker, but get
invloved in a group. The ones I'm in are always passing new information to
each other and doing, or working on little projects. I'm always amazed on
what I learn from other members of my group.

Tip #4 - Don't e-mail people with kick ass web sites and ask them to help
you be a hacker. Most of the time they think you are just some lamer and
trash your e-mail. Like I said, It's taken me two years to get where I am
now, I'm NOT going to take two years to teach you what I know. Like I said
above, get a book, go to school. read, read, read....

Tip #4 - Screw IRC, the people that you may talk to there are either there
just to chat, or are big head ego inflated dicks. There is NO way anyone
will learn anything on IRC, save how to be an IRC warrior. So skip it.

Tip #5 - Before you go around bugging other people asking them tons of
questions, go look for the answer yourself. Thats a key aspect for a good
hacker; to be able to track down and find little tid bits of information on
obscure topics.

Tip #6 - I think I might of said this before, but get familer with C or a C
based programming language like PERL, Java, or VC++. 90% of hacking has to
do with you writing, or using some sort of script written in C or PERL to
open up an exploit or hole.

Well thats all I can think of for now......

Gepeto
March 8th, 2002, 08:16 PM
Anyone can say "Waste of bandwith and server HD space" ? :)
I am new here but I suppose that pretty much everyone knew this... as for IRC, I learned lots of stuff about linux on IRC..

lkennedy.guru
March 8th, 2002, 08:46 PM
I think your tips in hole a good. But i would just like to add 1 or 2 things.

add#1-
Learn about how the web works, and about routers/firewalls. As well as vpn's and ssl. This is a neccesity. Wardialers are a thing of the past.

add#2-
Learn how to make a box succure. If you now how to pertect something you know that it's weaknes's are.

not a lot of info, but I think it will lead you in the right direction. personally, i keep my company network up and running and these are the things that I need to know.

Gepeto
March 8th, 2002, 09:15 PM
lknennedy: You also need to know how to sensibilize employees to security....damn boss absolutely wanted IPsec but at the same time he doesn't want to use another password than "password"... that gets me mad

hologram
March 8th, 2002, 10:27 PM
"Tip #3 - I know this may sound lame to the more vetren hacker, but get
invloved in a group. The ones I'm in are always passing new information to
each other and doing, or working on little projects. I'm always amazed on
what I learn from other members of my group."

Join the CyberArmy at http://www.cyberarmy.com Lot's of cool people there, and you learn a lot :)

lkennedy.guru
March 8th, 2002, 11:03 PM
Gepeto: My boss is the same way, but I don't give him an option. It is well here is your new password sr. After fulling a brute force attack I have found your password=password thery to be unsecuired. Sorry, have a nice day.

P.S. If you would like to keep you password = password, then I would advise you to take your computer. but it back in the box it came in and send it back to DELL.

Your to stupid to use it.

J/K

NetSyn
March 8th, 2002, 11:18 PM
Gepeto []
AntiOnline Newbie

posted: Today 02:16 PM
(post #2)

Anyone can say "Waste of bandwith and server HD space" ?
I am new here but I suppose that pretty much everyone knew this... as for IRC, I learned lots of stuff about linux on IRC..



Hey hypocrite , just wants to point out that u made a whole new thread just to reply to a old one...

Gepeto
This might not be really doable... posted: Today 04:26 PM
(post #1)

But if someday the server is powerful enough to parse everything and allow words to be replaced, one could set in the preferences some kind of "censor" to replace words like "hacker" by something else, so school proxies wouldn't block it....
Ok I admit it is not really a good idea, but I was just saying this in response to this

may be found here http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?threadid=221323



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