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zigar
March 29th, 2002, 03:49 PM
if this is as good as they say it is...wow...
With e2Sec, we're talking about encryption in excess of 5,000 bits, and as much as two to the power of 10,000."
2^10000 is a huge, huge number...beats 128bit by..oh...just a little....
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/D,D,B/20020328/gte2sec?hub=businessBN&tf=tgam%252Frealtime%252Ffullstory_Bus.html&cf=tgam/realtime/config-neutral&vg=BigAdVariableGenerator&slug=gte2sec&date=20020328&archive=RTGAM&site=
KorpDeath
March 29th, 2002, 04:01 PM
So let me ask, If you can't hack the data you want from the transmission then where would you look next?
How secure is the repository?
souleman
March 29th, 2002, 04:02 PM
It seems like a >5000 bit encryption would be increadibly slow. Ok, so with todays computers that means 15 nanoseconds or so, but thats beside the point. I haven't read the article yet (taking forever to load) but on a cell, wouldn't that cause some delays?
Rewandythal
March 29th, 2002, 04:15 PM
PGPDisk with a 4096-bit keypair should be enough to keep the data secure on storge, for most data anyway... I guess the NSA, Mi6 and other government agencies around the world would want considerably higher security, but that's their problem.
Mucolaca
March 29th, 2002, 05:04 PM
They really shouldn't say "un-hackable" cuz every time someone says that it eventualy gets hacked...
Rewandythal
March 29th, 2002, 06:05 PM
Like "unsinkable" and "titanic", eh?
ac1dsp3ctrum
March 29th, 2002, 06:06 PM
Why would you want 5000 bit encryption on a phone :confused:
I could understand if its for a computer, but a ****ing phone? Meh, They must have their reasons :)
KorpDeath
March 29th, 2002, 06:07 PM
Everything will eventually be hacked, there is no way around it. Unless it's not connected to anything...
cwk9
March 29th, 2002, 06:10 PM
I'm guessing that 5000 bit encryption would mean a big performance hit on a cellphone.
Noia
March 29th, 2002, 06:14 PM
Only (Almost) Truly safe method of using your comp is 2 unpug it.... :(
(I say almost coz EM signals do get transmited by your screen and HD, which can be detected.)
"All Clear in the Spy Buissness" - Contact
- Noia
:D
RiOtEr
March 29th, 2002, 11:21 PM
thats aes encrytption well thats how it works and not all cellphone signals are encrypted just my 2 c
RiOtEr
Rewandythal
March 29th, 2002, 11:26 PM
Noia, You can erect Tempest shielding around the facility and it should stop *most* EM emissions, so if you have your own power plant, you won't need to plug into anything outside at all...
Of course, there wouldn't be Internet access, cos any cable running into the building, even if on a separate network, totally unconnected to the one youre trying to protect, would be able to transfer any EM interference outside the tempest shielding.... right down as far as the other end of the cable.
MrBert
March 30th, 2002, 12:09 AM
i guess having it in your fone is good. encode your transmitions. my new fone can run some java softwarel and it hooks up to the internet so i could see wanting a little security. But it is a fone for goodnes sakes.
Sick Dwarf
March 30th, 2002, 12:19 AM
In 1 year, we won't have phones or laptops anymore. We will have Phonetops with a GPS system for tracing the "hackin"user and a sattelite internet connection.
Tim_axe
April 10th, 2002, 08:20 AM
Here in Japan, we got some of the best phones around! I doubt that would cause any performance hit what-so-ever... We have phones playing MP3's, using Secure Flash Memory, Taking Pictures, Acting As Video-Phones, Internet Access, Address Books, Game Devices (Not Too Complex, but Fun), and most anything else... Not only that, but you can get them for around $100+, but you also have to get the service... We also have cell phones that act as wireless modems... About a year and a half ago, they had 64K cell-modems... I don't know what it is at now, but we do have a lot of stuff over here... Just to let you people know...
-Tim_axe
BrainStop
April 10th, 2002, 11:33 AM
Excuse me for being technical as I know this was extracted from a PR guy ...
we're talking about encryption in excess of 5,000 bits, and as much as two to the power of 10,000
From my understanding, 1 bit = 2 possibilities = 2^1, thus 5,000 bits = 2^5000 possibilities ... but, if they say "as much as 2^10,000", does it mean 10,000 bits?
Which is it then? Count on PR people to speak nonsense.
Cheers.
BrainStop