SubSeven 2.2

[Avid]

I downloaded version 2.2 to figure out why
i keep getting attacked playing monopoly.
(See previous post for that story).
Anyway im wondering why norton 2002
allways protects me from that,but it did'nt
prevent the download or afterwards when
i right clicked the file and scanned it,still
no norton warning?
should'nt it have detected the exe. susbseven
2.2 even before its opened?
Did'nt post in "security leaks in norton"
because maybe its a "dud" trojan?

[ASA]

Is v2.2 too new?
And have you done all your recent updates for the anti-virus programme?
:hiphop: :smokes:

[Avid]

Yes im up to date on the definitions.
But maybe its because its a remote
access trojan(rat) it doesnt recognize it?
I spent allot of bucks on that norton
package too...Shuks

[Unleashed]

Have you download it from sub7 home page ( http://www.sub7files.org ) or another website?

[Avid]

Another site

[Ouroboros]

I would assume that the trojan is not exposed until 'unzipped'(opened and installed), but I couldn't say for sure...
If such is the case, you'll never know until it's too late...

Ouroboros

[Avid]

The kids downloaded a game once and it
detected a file within the files as soon as the
download started?
Sorry to bug evreyone on easter weekend but
symantec are slow responders

[Unleashed]

Ok, I recommend you to delete downloaded sub7, and download it from it's own site which I mentioned above.
The sub 7 which you have downloaded might be edited to prevent antivirus detection and it might not be the original sub7 ! so be carefull, they also could infected the client part of the sub7 which you have downloaded with another trojan! just delete it and download it from it's own website.

[Avid]

Cool thanks for the url i was the first visitor
Mine is an .exe this one states its a zip
this thing better detect it this time.

[Avid]

Download link aint working.
Or norton is :-)

[cwk9]

Only download sub7 form the official site. There are lots of edited versions that will do not so nice things to your computer. Same goes for back orifice.

[preacherman481]

Avid, you can do what you want to of course, but if I were you, I wouldn't won't to be on either end of sub/seven. You don't know what kind of backdoors it might have built into it. :cool:

[Avid]

I know preach i should be happy with my security stopping it. I spend half,well no 72% of
my free time chasing down security issue's as i type im trying to find that that page i was
reading about python in windows allowing all kinds of things to happen.
And the other 23% is monopoly,scrabble,etc.
And when you get attacked playing monopoly it kind of get's to ya like not having your
armour on battling the spirits of the unseen world.

[ASA]

Talkin' about Norton, yesterday some dumbass send me the worm w32.BadTrans.B which includes a keylogger and Norton detected it before even I could see the filename appear on the screen...
Even if it did appear, I would not run a .scr file...
:hiphop: :smokes:

[Unleashed]

Avid, don't you use any firewall on your machine?

[[WebCarnage]]

...I've heard rumors....shhh..

What I've heard is that both the client and server of Sub7 are infected with a trojan. The server.exe obviously being one backdoor, and the client being a second backdoor that mobman (the creator), installed for his own malacious purposes...

[George_ge]

.... i dont know aboout those rumors ... what i've read in a site was that there is a key to unlock any sub7 password..... and that the key was created from mobman itself.... although i found smtg that looked like the key , it never worked to password protected servers ..... and about firewalls..... i used to have Black Ice but the last year i use Zonelarm.... its good and it always ask for permission to let a program access the net .....including Sub7

[ASA]

It's proven in old versions of Sub7 that a master key exists.
Even once I got curious about that and tried to reverse the trojan on my own with the help of SoftIce (the great debugger) and saw that there was really a master key however mobman had done too much coding to hide it...
Then someone whispered the reversing secret around and mobman had to change it or play some other trick on the next versions.
Well perhaðs I was not the first and only one who found that trick actually. Trojans are lame. But if you really need to use one, then code your own trojan...
:hiphop: :smokes:

[Ouroboros]

I agree with preacherman and webcarnage. You may be getting into something that you can't get out of. I have also heard a rumor (from AO, matter of fact) that SubSeven has a logic bomb embedded. True or not, you'd be wise to not use such a program...the existence of a backdoor in the program itself is apparent, and i'd do the same if i were to write such a program (just being honest). Steer away from SubSeven and such readily available invasion tools...besides, most informed users are ready to respond very angrily and judiciously if their screen suddenly flips upside-down, as this is one of the many foolish things that S7 does...
Beware.

Ouroboros

[Avid]

Of course i do unleashed.And dont be fooled by those niether i've ran across
downloads for zapping norton anti virus and zone alarm.
Im using hardware software combination firewalls and was looking for a third
until the one firewall post oi read made me settle for what i have.

[Ivan Kozhedub]

there is a decent trojan remover by moosoft called the cleaner, it works pretty similar to norton in the way that you update the defenitions every couple of weeks, it won't look for viruses though so it's best to use it alongside norton and not instead of, on one occasion a while back it found a trojan on my pc that norton did not dectect so i always scan files that i'm not sure about with both of em now....

[blackmask]

I think Avid is right their homepage link doesn't work.May be coz they are renewing the site.

Try to download it from tlsecurity.com

«ßlâçkMâ§k».

[Ryan Nyquist]

Norton AntiVirus sucks. I had the latest version (obviously 2002) and I ran LiveUpdate everyday. My computer got wrecked at least 5 times with the Bo2k (Back Orifice 2000) trojan that Norton did not detect on my scans, which I even scheduled! Finally I went out and bought McAfee VirusScan 6.0 Professional and it worked way better! McAfee is almost the same program as Trend Micro's PC-cillin with a couple more features. McAfee VirusScan 6.0 even comes with a firewall and is less expensive than Norton. I would not download programs like SubSeven, NetBus, or Bo2k without an active firewall to ensure the security. When you download a RAT program, your antivirus will detect a trojan (which is normal) but how do you know that this trojan is just the antivirus detecting the server.exe file or it is an actual real trojan with a hacker behind it controlling your computer?thats why u shouldn't download these programs without a firewall. firewalls are available free allover the net. the server file on the subseven that you downloaded was probably cleaned by the person that put it on the sites trojan scanner which will mean the trojan has been cleaned of all its harmful and fun functions (in other words it is a dud).

[lord_darkside_x]

NAV will not detect it until you try to excecute it... that is the way norton is with a lot of trojans.

[oooooo]

gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

[t34b4g5]

:what:gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

[nihil]

Landlord,

Might I have a pint of whatever that gentleman has been drinking?

:drink::D