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dalee18
August 12th, 2004, 07:42 PM
Hi there,
I'll be staying in a hotel offering wireless internet access next week. I'm concerned about my security. Obviously I have file sharing disabled, but I am worried that my passwords could be compromised. Does anyone know if hotels standardly use encryption, or if I'll be sending my data in clear text across this network? I've never used wireless in a hotel before, and I'd really like to, but I am worried.
Irongeek
August 12th, 2004, 07:53 PM
If your work place has a VPN just tunnel through it and you should be ok. What kind of applications will you be using that would pass a password across the network?
moxnix
August 12th, 2004, 07:59 PM
It may have changed since I was in and out of hotels/motels a lot, but I found that most hotels that offer WIFI do not use any encryption. Most of them will provide a log on screen that allows you to access their system but that is all.
Before I would use any wireless connection (even my own) I would have a good AV and Firewall set up on my own system. I would have all unnessesary services disabled, and of course netbios disabled. I would not use online banking or order anything online using a credit card or electronic check. All of my passwords would be long and difficult and I would change them after leaving the hotel.
Basically just use common sense and be paranoid.
Nokia
August 12th, 2004, 08:00 PM
I would have thought they would have some form of security otherwise anyone could just log on and not have to pay for it!
I stayed at one last weekend, all I had to do was buy a voucher from them (you can use a credit card though) and they give you the SSID and a WEP key to use.
unit321
August 12th, 2004, 08:06 PM
The previous issue of 2600 (2600.com) has a article about hotel internet access. Interesting if you want to know about it.
dalee18
August 12th, 2004, 08:15 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=260954#post780560) by Irongeek
If your work place has a VPN just tunnel through it and you should be ok. What kind of applications will you be using that would pass a password across the network?
Unfortunately, I don't have access to a VPN. The applications I'd be using would be aim/icq, email, and some online games (medievia and ragnarok)
Thanks everyone for the advice
Nokia
August 12th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Id check with them to see if you can play online games before you get your hopes up !
The firewall of the last hotel I was in didnt allow this and when I asked about it, the reply I got was if I was willing to pay the £95!!!! call out fee for the "computer guy" to come out to reconfigure it, then they would let me play online games to my hearts content!
It proberbly cost them more to change the SSID back after I left ;-)
ss2chef
August 12th, 2004, 09:34 PM
I'm in hotels several times a month.
I have never seen a hotel offering wireless with any encryption.
My guess is it is a value added situation where they attempt to limit the costs of supporting
guests with encryption problems.
phishphreek
August 12th, 2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=260954#post780569) by dalee18
Unfortunately, I don't have access to a VPN. The applications I'd be using would be aim/icq, email, and some online games (medievia and ragnarok)
Thanks everyone for the advice
Hopefully you'll be able to use those...
The last time I was in a hotel... I was limited to http/https, aim, msn, smtp and pop3.
A little creative workaround will usually do the trick... ;)
And... no, the WAP was not encryped and the ssid was easily found.
They did not charge for connecting though... just limited what you could do.
I was in a Marriott....
Cybr1d
August 12th, 2004, 11:38 PM
Unfortunately, I don't have access to a VPN. The applications I'd be using would be aim/icq, email, and some online games (medievia and ragnarok)
Thanks everyone for the advice
You should be able to use those programs without much issues. Why don't you just call them up and ask what kind of security precautions do they take?
CXGJarrod
August 12th, 2004, 11:43 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=260954#post780625) by Cybr1d
You should be able to use those programs without much issues. Why don't you just call them up and ask what kind of security precautions do they take?
Cause the nub at the counter who is answering your call is unlikely to know anything. ;) I wouldnt browse anything too important on their connection, because who knows what they log.
Edit: Most likely the connection is set up for ease of use and not security. You wouldnt want those sales people and managers to have a hard time getting on the net. ;)
Cybr1d
August 12th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Cause the nub at the counter who is answering your call is unlikely to know anything. I wouldnt browse anything too important on their connection, because who knows what they log
I think he should PM cheyenne ;) LOL. Well the nub at the counter i'm sure could direct him to someone who knows better. You'll be suprised what nubs behind counters know about computers ;)
AngelicKnight
August 12th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Unless it's outsourced. Do hotel chains actually have IT staff? Doesn't sound it, considering you have to pay for them calling someone out to come set it up for online gaming!
Tiger Shark
August 13th, 2004, 12:03 AM
Nokia:
It proberbly cost them more to change the SSID back after I left ;-)
That _has_ to be one of the funniest one-liners I have heard in a long while.....
foxyloxley
August 13th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Do hotel chains actually have IT staff? Doesn't sound it, considering you have to pay for them calling someone out to come set it up for online gaming!
I've just seen a job on www.jobserve.co.uk for sys/admin in a hotel chain. you would be based at one hotel, and be required to travel to others in the chain to do hell and all for p155 poor money too. Not one for the CV collective posting.
dalee18
August 13th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=260954#post780625) by Cybr1d
You should be able to use those programs without much issues. Why don't you just call them up and ask what kind of security precautions do they take?
Because talking on the phone makes me very anxious :)
Nokia
August 13th, 2004, 11:37 PM
Because talking on the phone makes me very anxious
Eh? :confused: