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solafide
February 13th, 2005, 02:23 PM
Message is encrypted as !J39r9Qd:<] b:?h-@InZeb'YAN$}zjc^2%Et&aj17@T$U+H4129Ipc$!mA9L-r)RZ%;Lm\knAnggN-=Jbd`r/hUO5N(].0:*h-crLWC"^U;f@2
81, 22, 59, 35, 39, 44, 4, 46, 54, 38, 57, 74, 30, 17, 92, 93, 73, 40, 34, 36, 6, 24, 27, 39, 32, 11, 64, 57, 50, 37, 46, 65, 46, 15, 0, 42, 38, 48, 13, 95, 78, 72, 74, 27, 20, 6, 42, 70, 35, 67, 73, 51, 51, 88, 50, 87, 30, 38, 84, 67, 21, 22, 64, 62, 73, 45, 4, 41, 66, 47, 41, 37, 12, 26, 78, 37, 10, 83, 34, 78, 82, 27, 90, 10, 7, 12, 74, 81, 48, 34, 23, 16, 44, 0, 76, 0, 41, 8, 23, 20, 14, 71, 56, 4, 70, 94, 48, 92, 91, 23, 53, 76, 92, 95, 69, 84, 2, 91, 86, 34, 88, 77, 84, 35, 50, 36, 75, 30, 54, 80, 7, 58, 23, 11, 1, 55, 72, 68, 80, 37, 47, 44, 3, 77, 33, 92, 1, 51, 58, 16, 52, 82, 94, 94, 59, 83, 65, 92, 13, 46, 53, 55, 6, 64, 43, 65, 72, 20, 95, 54, 81, 18, 45, 38, 64, 29, 16, 34, 50, 60, 91, 66, 65, 8, 87, 49, 47, 60, 93, 95, 35, 3, 28, 53, 7, 23, 83, 76, 63, 51, 92, 51, 72, 86, 0, 85, 23, 10, 90, 36, 60, 70, 31, 9, 43, 44, 30, 70, 42, 47, 26, 27, 56, 82, 64, 91, 76, 71, 5, 28, 85, 42, 13, 40, 22, 11, 28, 25, 63, 58, 56, 41, 53, 84, 59, 58, 17, 61, 15, 19, 31, 88, 57, 39, 37, 2, 22, 73, 55, 19, 16, 0, 55, 29, 46, 94, 9, 86, 53, 16, 50, 32, 74, 58, 75, 16, 10, 11, 74, 31, 83, 43, 10, 95, 60, 8, 1, 90, 15, 84, 44, 54, 31, 47, 71, 41, 21, 31, 8, 37, 16, 60, 76, 67, 50, 41, 69, 76, 37, 58, 20, 37, 68, 8, 31, 57, 54, 92, 66, 71, 49, 40, 43, 24, 20, 7, 52, 78, 84, 55, 95, 59, 10, 33, 83, 94, 0, 74, 57, 9, 66, 74, 39, 12, 47, 95, 83, 90, 10, 43, 28, 92, 60, 31, 4, 89, 89, 5, 65, 0, 47, 74, 0, 62, 64, 25, 77, 60, 63, 9, 61, 5, 30, 85, 24, 89, 41, 86, 83, 27, 78, 93, 19, 32, 81, 19, 2, 54, 15, 18,

Now it looks like soms sort of substitution cipher. Looks like gibberish to me.

It is actually a Javascript page on my computer.

But I did make a decoder program!

Billy

Und3ertak3r
February 13th, 2005, 03:07 PM
hmmm seem to rememder this from a mapping site someone had this question 6 or 8 months ago or was it a year ago.. oh what ever..

so you trying to capture the map or crack a web page right?

solafide
February 13th, 2005, 04:02 PM
I'm seeing how strong it is.

Here is another code from the same place:
Message is encrypted as cQ##8xw@<:*]FU"h'$9$MdV>-Y<=6"oM}*Oe'n>\x7*6\%I+]]`e&L/kp7+
74, 58, 2, 34, 54, 52, 54, 47, 29, 82, 78, 23, 14, 72, 11, 6, 92, 21, 9, 48, 41, 68, 38, 57, 75, 46, 11, 30, 89, 31, 74, 53, 40, 60, 16, 20, 83, 50, 41, 49, 38, 84, 34, 90, 77, 19, 68, 84, 32, 18, 65, 14, 73, 21, 52, 60, 29, 91, 94, 1, 11, 35, 67, 22, 64, 7, 84, 66, 84, 57,

I want to know if it is secure enough for credit cards...

If you don't crack this one, I'll tell you the code for the program that does it, just not the order of the letters in the array in it.

Billy

©opy®ight
February 13th, 2005, 05:02 PM
Wtf do you think we are ? Waiting for someone to post something for us to crack ? We got better things to do !

NeuTron
February 13th, 2005, 05:19 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=266025#post822880) by solafide
I'm seeing how strong it is.

Here is another code from the same place...


Interesting way to describe code that you supposedly wrote...

Relyt
February 13th, 2005, 05:46 PM
Billy,

The manner in which the questions are asked will definitely influence the response you receive. So far your wording cast doubts about your intent and the responses reflect that. I took the liberty to visit your site and see what it’s all about. The farm program sounds great! But I did observe that your site is not finished yet. Additionally, I noticed that there was no way for someone to make a secure payment. I may be out in left field on this, but here is what I perceive the situation to be and this is how I would ask:

Hey folks I’m building a site at http://solafidefarms.com/ and I want to set up secure online transactions. I’m not very familiar with procedure, but always willing to learn. How should I accomplish this? Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.


Now if that is the case, I'm sure you will get all the help you need. On the other hand if you are trying to crack, you will receive feedback as well. But it will be more like cow pies being tossed your way at Mach 5.

Hope that helps

cheers

unhappy
February 13th, 2005, 05:55 PM
i'm so sick and tired of newbs putting up their half-ass ciphers and crypto farts or any other pathetic "i'm a student programmer" attempts to code, and asking us to "crack" it.

this link shows you that it's a waste of everyone's time
http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=249063&highlight=etruscan

so **** off already

el-half
February 13th, 2005, 07:17 PM
I want to know if it is secure enough for credit cards...


If you don't crack this one, I'll tell you the code for the program that does it

Where is sense?

solafide
February 13th, 2005, 08:30 PM
I am very sorry for offending you all. I suppose I was just trying to show off. But I really am interested in cryptology.

quote:

I want to know if it is secure enough for credit cards...

quote:

If you don't crack this one, I'll tell you the code for the program that does it

Where is sense? Gone with the wind

Never mind about being secure enough for credit cards. As I said, I must just have been showing off.

Here is the page, I figure that the code would be tiresome to read, but you see it IS on my server, and really does encrypt anything: http://solafidefarms.com/Javascript/enript.htm And I can decode what it says, it is just laborious to do and not always correct.

I realize it doesn't stop in FF, but it is a interesting thing.

As I said, I am sorry for offending you and taking up your time. I am also sorry for ambiguously wording it. Please forgive my pride.

Billy

XTC46
February 13th, 2005, 09:19 PM
And I can decode what it says, it is just laborious to do and not always correct.

if it is not always correct then you cannt deciphier it. Unless a code is 100 percent at encryption/decryption it cant be used for transmitting data, especially on the level of creditcards and the like. now if you were trying to write a code that encrypts say a password, and never can be dycripted then thats something else/

MrLinus
February 13th, 2005, 09:25 PM
You might want to lock your directory down: http://solafidefarms.com/Javascript/ Might do better than worrying about the strength of your crypto.

0x7e
February 13th, 2005, 10:33 PM
is this another keyless encryption algorithm?

solafide
February 13th, 2005, 10:47 PM
Sort of-it is actually a random key(see those numbers? that's the key.), expanded Vinginere square.

jinxy
February 13th, 2005, 11:52 PM
This code is not important to the secure credit card transaction. Even if the code is uncrackable. This is because the submitter will be sending the details of his/her credit card in clear across what is, in effect the world wide insecure web.

SawPer
February 14th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=266025#post822924) by MsMittens
You might want to lock your directory down: http://solafidefarms.com/Javascript/ Might do better than worrying about the strength of your crypto.

LOL! :D
Yepp, that would be one BIG hole alright and still is!! hehe!

Tim_axe
February 17th, 2005, 01:58 AM
solafide - Decrypting this is very easy. I simply look up the index of each character in the array, and walk backwards by the number provided. The element in the array that I arrive at is the original value. This is very weak because you give everyone everything needed to perform the attack (the array) and the method is very linear. Theoretically with a large enough string of encrypted text, some pattern analysis would let anyone reconstruct the table -- so even issuing everyone a unique array wouldn't work. It inherently leaks way too much information -- bad.

Don't even consider using something you come up with in your free time to transfer credit card information? Who is liable if the information is 'cracked'? You!

Personally I really dislike wasting my time if no code is provided. With how this forum is so lifeless though I went through and read past the first post and found where you actually provided some code. So incase anyone else reads this post: remember that anyone can produce gibberish and call it encrypted and secure. Post code and your request may be considered, but just remember that even professionals in this field of crypto have a hard time coming up with good algorithms, so many don't waste their time trying. (IE, MD5/SHA-1 have finally had some evidence showing them to be cracked / weakened -- http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=266107)

I'm not a pro in cryptography myself (going to be a photographer in college after HS instead), though I spend enough time studying it (crypto & photography) to understand what is going on under the hood in a lot of the stuff I do...

SirDice
February 17th, 2005, 10:55 AM
The code he provided here (http://solafidefarms.com/Javascript/enript.htm) doesn't even encrypt properly. Any character used of the top half of the letters array will result in "undefined" in the "encrypted" text.

I don't even consider this an encryption. It's an obfuscation routine, nothing more, nothing less. And as Tim_axe noted, it's damn easy to "crack".