Cooking with Poop

[Egaladeist]

Human Feces Powers Rwandan Prison

' Forget the charcoal brickettes darlin' we're going to BBQ with yesterdays feces. '

Sometimes...you come across something that makes you think both...' What the Frig??? '...and...' Hummmm...not a bad idea...we should do that in our prisons ' ...at the same time

http://www.wired.com/news/planet/0,2...tml?tw=rss.TOP
Wired News: Human Feces Powers Rwandan Prison

I guess this is a case where ' Eat _ _ _ t !...almost applies

Eg


Think...60% saving on energy costs...and they can provide the labor free....' Scoop the Poop Rehabilatation '.

[nihil]

Hi EG~

That is certainly a new one on me.....................camel and yak droppings have been used as fuel for centuries. In WWII we had vehicles in the UK running on chicken droppings (they generated methane).

The Chinese have also used human excrement as fertiliser for over 1000 years..........they call it "night soil"

I guess the secret is in the enzymes?...........somewhere I have a Queen's Award for Technology necktie..............the company was a glucose refiner and had this super tank that was full of enzymes that cleaned the polluted water that came out of the process. I seem to recall that methane was a by-product?

[Egaladeist]

Hi nihil,

There was a farmer here who ran his vehicles on pig manure until he was shut down for illegally operating a still...

but I've never heard of human waste being used for anything...the story struck me as funny...that is until I read where they save 60% of their electric bill...

with the amount of prisons in North America...that would turn into quite a large sum....the problem with methane though is ozone depletion.

Believe it or not, cows are the number one cause of ozone depletion

Eg

[nihil]

Hi EG~

Yes, pig manure is the next best after chicken droppings..............you cannot use either in their "raw" format, they would burn the hell out of your plants you need to compost them and allow them to decompose.

I used to have an excellent source of police horse droppings, the lads would deliver them in an "arrest vehicle" (Black Maria over here )............I asked about the smell............the sergeant was amused and said "don't worry boss, we're only going to put perps in there...........same substance, different smell"

You are quite right about the methane, but I believe that we are talking a "closed system" here?........you burn the methane so you will get CO2 and H2O (maybe CO?)........on the other hand, cows fart

Check out "night soil", the Chinese have used human excrement as fertiliser for a very long time (all of a sudden Uncle Ben's American short grain seems a much better option?)

[foxyloxley]

Seen the thread title :
thought it was The Specialist's menu

suprised he hasn't popped / pooped in yet

[nihil]

Nah Foxy, the Spesh ai'nt inta the teknikal syde of thingz lyke wot us profezzionals iz.............

I meen.............wuld he no lizzard crap if he tasted it?

Damn it folks!...........I think that I shall go open another bottle of this stuff............it seems to be working

Sorry Spesh~ just could not resist the temptation

[Egaladeist]

Hi nihil,

I always thought it was about cows farting too...up until about 10 minutes ago...according to the sites I checked out on ' methane/cows/ozone ' it's apparently caused by burping and breathing...something to do with their stomach...

The methane produced in a cow's rumen - the first of a cow's four stomachs - gets into the bloodstream and exits through the lungs, said Ken Olson, a range livestock nutritionist at Utah State University.

Almost all of it comes from breathing, though a tiny bit does escape when a cow belches, Olson said.

http://www.cp.org/english/online/ful.../a061320A.html
Cow Breath

There are several major sources of methane: rice paddies (methane-producing bacteria thrive in the underwater environment), swamps and wetlands (ditto), mining and oil drilling, landfills, termites (although there's still some controversy on this one), "biomass burning" (notably in the Amazon rain forest), and animals. Ninety percent of animal methane is produced by ruminants (i.e., cud-chewers). These include sheep, goats, camels, water buffalo, and so on, but most of all cattle, of which the world has an estimated 1.2 billion.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_176.html
The Straight Dope: Do cow and termite flatulence threaten the earth's atmosphere?


Apparently...US Farmers are taking the dive...Minnesota, Georgia, and Washington States are using Human waste as fertilizer too...

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/waste.htm
Human Waste Being Used In Fertilizer In Washington State

http://www.uswaternews.com/archives/...colugeor1.html
Columbus, Georgia aims to turn human waste into fertilizer

http://www.greatlakesdirectory.org/m...reat_lakes.htm
10/12 - Minnesota Farmers Use Human Waste Fertilizer

You would think the type of fertilizer used would affect the flavor of the food? Is this why I don't care for Georgia peaches?

Hi foxyloxley,

Nah...the Spec is more into just saying ' poop ' than the enviromental use and utility of poop

Eg ( insert fourth smilely here )

[nihil]

Hi EG~

You would think the type of fertilizer used would affect the flavor of the food? Is this why I don't care for Georgia peaches?

I have just had a word with my wife (#3 ).............when she goes on a shopping trip next, please send me a couple of "Georgia Peaches".................

I do not believe that the type of fertiliser affects the flavour of the food.............mostly the stuff has to be processed/composted before it is usable?

Anyway it is all P:K:N plus trace elements..............vegetables don't "eat" the stuff

[foxyloxley]

For the Purists ...............

PKN is WRONG
it should be NPK

Nitrogen
Phosphate
Potash

I KNOW that = NPP
but trust me
check out that periodic table we all keep near by ....................

Can't allow falsehoods through now can we ????

[Galdron]

I thought about putting it on the Menu at Iris.


But it sounded like a shitty idea.