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Punkin
August 11th, 2001, 10:27 PM
Hi all. My computer has problems. Again.......:killcompu:
Here is the list of what went wrong.
1.)During sleep mode the comp freezes and I have to manually reboot.
2.)I was uninstalling my sound card drivers and bundled software.
3.)I got a fatal exception error and illegal operation during the middle of the uninstall
4.)I rebooted cuz it froze.
5.)Windows froze and told me my registry was bad.
6.)Windows freezes and tells me I have a combination of illegal ops fatal exceptions and registry errors about 5 times.
7.)During pre-win bootup I get a message saying something about corrupt XMT and then a hex code. Then it says Himem.sys is corrupt.
8.)I try to boot into safemode No success see below
8.)The screen goes blank and I try to reboot (no success) then I press the power-off button and it stays on.
9.)5 min later it shuts off fine and I load windows just fine.
10.)The sound software still loads (EAX)
11.)Somewhere during the crashes I get a message telling me that my system monitoring program has a fatal exception and illegal Operation a few times (the sys monitor is a program that check the cpu temp fan speed ram usage ect.)
:verypisse:
Wierd huh!
Do you have any idea what this is?
Do I have a serious hardware problem? (when the computer wouldn't shut off I was really scared)
Or is it software?
Should I format my hard-drive and start over?
:cuss:
Thanks for the help!
Punkin
hogfly
August 12th, 2001, 07:13 AM
Ideas??????yeah format c:
Chris
August 12th, 2001, 07:19 AM
Sounds like windows is running perfectly.
If you don't like some of these these features, such as the scheduled coffee break periods (aka crashes), you could always install Linux.
hogfly
August 12th, 2001, 09:16 AM
its not the OS that is broken.
rofl
just kidding punkin.
bAgZ
August 13th, 2001, 03:30 PM
I'd say format C: will do the job.
Neophyte
August 13th, 2001, 05:37 PM
You don't have any problems...you have undocumented features!
FlashOveride
August 13th, 2001, 10:48 PM
As everyone knows windows has a habbit of crashing and because you cannot see the source you are limited on what you can do. For this type of reason you have to make a lot of backups and recovery disks. First off I have had lockups where I have had to unplug my computer a couple of times. If you can get it to come up I would first off get rid of sleep mode. Sleep mode causes more problems than it does good. The other thing is to get The Cleaner and see if you have a virus. Have you made changes to your bios?? You could have possibly fried your board. I will think about this one and get back to you.:confused:
lawrence171
August 14th, 2001, 03:58 AM
Um...... just format the whole thing and re-install windows. Welcome to the world of Microsoft!
Melda
August 16th, 2001, 04:01 AM
Lawerance has blessed you with his infinate wisdom. All hail Lawrence.:drink:
Evil Homer
August 16th, 2001, 04:50 AM
format, install linux as you primary OS, have a windows partition for those apps that you cant live without that arent ported to linux (aka games)...it will make life easier in the long run
Neophyte
August 16th, 2001, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Evil Homer
format, install linux as you primary OS, have a windows partition for those apps that you cant live without that arent ported to linux (aka games)...it will make life easier in the long run
Alrighty then there CLUELESS!!!! :dunce:
What makes you think that this was the right answer for someone that odviously can't understand Windows. "Hey, why don't you use a Bulldozer...I see you don't know how to use your shovel." Get real...Linux is serously above this person.
Zair the Wise
August 18th, 2001, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Neophyte
Alrighty then there CLUELESS!!!! :dunce:
What makes you think that this was the right answer for someone that odviously can't understand Windows. "Hey, why don't you use a Bulldozer...I see you don't know how to use your shovel." Get real...Linux is serously above this person.
I would disagree with that one. The general notion that windoze is easier then any other OS is just a myth. Any person can learn to use Linux, BeOS, or any other OS in the same time they would learn to use Windoze. Besides, bulldozers come with manuals, showels don't :deal:
Neophyte
August 20th, 2001, 04:43 PM
Back to the resolution of the real problem....Reformat C: and reinstall windoze.
As for anyone who is going to install some form of Linux. Do your research first. You will have much more power with Linux but with taht power you will have many more dangers.
As for the post to Clueless. :dunce:
What is the logic of telling someone that they should change their OS to something more complicated when they odviously didn't take the time to learn the one they were using?
CrazyShaman
September 10th, 2001, 05:03 AM
Well, I donīt know how to start, but you should try to reinstall windows without format first... it can work...
Open the register editor and try to figure out what is wrong...
If your windows is the 98 s.e there is a complementary file that can help you to shut your pc down... it called here in brazil
4756br8... visit the microsux page...
I hope that it can help you...
:killcompu
Terr
September 10th, 2001, 05:53 AM
Sounds like general error-accumulation. You get errors from bad code and from tiny inescapable single-bit corruption due to the sheer complexity of the system (and entropy), and eventually it snowballs. I think you've been snowballed.
Try scandisk-ing your drive. It may be one of the culprits, failing on you.
Does booting to DOS work? Or to windows Safe mode? Try those, and if they seem to work okay, I'd have to say it's a windows DLL/Registry problem or something like that. Now, I wouldn't say 'format c:', but I would tell you to back up your programs, data files, AND registry files (system.dat, user.dat's) and try reinstalling windows.
If that sounds really painful and you want to try some other common hardware-based things before that, you could try checking whether the internal power supply is going wonky with voltages.
Negative
September 10th, 2001, 10:22 PM
As everyone knows windows has a habbit of crashing and because you cannot see the source you are limited on what you can do.
Flashoveride, there's an explanation on about every 'cryptic error-message' you'll ever face on the MS Knowledge Base (http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US) . Illegal ops, fatal exceptions and registry errors? The Knowledge Base knows it all! You can even search on hex code... Just a tip...Check it out, Punkin...
BTW: 'format c:' must be the most-stated comment on those forums... HEY GUYS, WE ALREADY KNOW!!! You know who I'm talking about...
KapperDog
September 11th, 2001, 03:03 AM
Punkin,
I have to agree with Terr on this one. Error accumulation.
Before you format, do you have data on the drive that you don't want to loose? If so, you could try re-installing Windows. Odds are high that you could still have problems. However, you might get it running enough to make a backup and then reformat and install Windows.
Also, if you can network it to a puter with a CD burner you can burn a CD of the drive before you reformat.
No doubt there is data you wish to save. Yes?
KapperDog
ivan37
September 11th, 2001, 03:55 AM
I by habit reinstall Windows every couple of months. I keep a small partition with all the stuff I want to save to make it easy.
Terr
September 11th, 2001, 04:03 AM
A month ago I got a nice 30gig drive, which was a big improvement over my stuffed-full 6 gig drive. One of the things I could have done (but didn't, it's a long story) was boot to DOS, and use the xcopy command to move everything from the 6 gig to the 30gig. Then I swapped them around so that the 30gig was the C: drive, and then made it bootable. In essence, I had moved EVERYTHING intact from one drive to another, and it ran like a charm.
If you have a drive lying around, this could be the easiest way to back up everything.
If you DO reinstall windows right over the old windows (which might work, you know), I would say that you MUST make backups of your registry.dat/user.dat files. Non-negotiable. A reinstall would overwrite them. And even if the copies you have are corrupt, in the sense that the windows information in them is wrong, you can still select bits you want to keep and add them to your new OS registry, such as bits describing what is installed, and program registration information.
On that note, I'd backup the DLLs...
Heck. If you can spare the room, just copy /windows/ to /winbackup/, everything (except swap file)...
Just take it slow, and make plenty of backups, and it'll go easy. Try to hurry it, and you'll lose stuff. I guarentee it.
Lascaux
September 11th, 2001, 04:21 AM
Mmmmm, Linux....I am a major proponent of Linux. It relly is quite easy to learn and allows for a lot more control. (at least I feel that way) Also Microsoft is the spawn of all things evil. There is the whole game problem, so paritioning so you can still play 'em is wise. If you do go with Linux I would recommend Red Hat ( I am sure MANY MANY MANY people will disagree with me there,but that is my personal preference.) Also, for everyone that is saying he obviously didn't bother to learn his current OS. Windows can be confusing as shit, and is buggy as hell. Linux can be easier to learn because it does what you tell it to. No more, no less.
Raditz
September 12th, 2001, 04:31 AM
there just should be so many errors exploits etc. I mean, 6 releases of windows and it still sucks. Maybe they'll get it right...nah.
PhirePhreak
September 16th, 2001, 04:01 AM
I'm not defending Microsoft or anything, but before you go around flaming Windoze, I want to see you write a OS that is used globally.
Seriously, I'm not too wild about Windoze, but with QUITE a bit of work, it can be acceptable.
Call me stupid if you want, I don't care. Just another "point to ponder."