Firewall and router

[nihil]

Hi,

As said above, but please consider this:

If you don't have it and things go wrong YOU are fired..............otherwise you did "industry standards"....

There are some on this site who might advise otherwise, from their self-perceived high and mighty positions....... I have seen them crap out in court.......... probably flipping burgers now

Sysadmin is basically middle management at best , and most know jack sh1t about management at that, at least the cutthroat nature of some of it

I can give you some case examples of your question.......... but I will leave them for the moment............

EDIT:

I realise that I probably sound somewhat defeatist, but I am a firm believer in "CYA" or "due diligence"............. whatever you like to call it.

I wouldn't like to explain to a CEO why I had decided against a firewall, when he has probably heard of those, but knows nothing about routers. It is a bit like the arguments for and against AV products.........sure, they may not do much for you, but they are an insurance policy for your job?

if the router is already closing the unnecessary ports?

That still leaves you with the issue of what traffic is allowed through the ports you need to keep open?

OK, some quality routers also act as a hardware firewall as well, and at the risk of sounding pedantic, I would describe them as combo products rather than just a router.

Some very good points were made about the "enemy within"...............typically your router and hardware firewalls are at the perimeter. You may decide to deploy internal firewalls in certain circumstances...............possibly in a school or college environment?