Thanks guys... I couldn't find any documentation on it. I was thinking along the lines of what chsh said but I wanted to be sure. I guess I assumed that the makers of Tiger would have assumed that there was a shadow file for passwords. I did check the password checking script and it apparently it tries to merge the files for a Crack run then saves that file. I don't use or need crack for what I need on this server becasue I know all the passwords.