View Poll Results: How Secure Am I?

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Thread: Who do you Support?

  1. #11
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    Well I want to throw my 02 in here. As the first generation that won the right to vote at 18 I've voted every since. Taking an active part in one's community and voting has everything to do with security. Since the passage of the DMCA this medium has been under assult and corp greed, look at the recent passage of laws where a muse is as bad as a bullet crap. Civil liberties are being taken under the guise of National Security. Only way some of this will change is to VOTE. Me I vote for the person I feel has the right agenda and are for the people that elect them. This is not off subject but on the mark security is also about laws that address a problem of illegal activity.
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    Well, I had a political science class and learned lot about the dirty tricks politicians use to get erected. But I think third party, like Green is relatively harmless and more simpathetic to people in US. I don't think democratic or republic don't really care the well being of people in US.

    Oops, I mean "elected"..
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    School of Thought

    Originally posted here by ##prisoner##
    Well, I had a political science class and learned lot about the dirty tricks politicians use to get erected.
    Obviously a typo, but still funny...cigar anyone?

    But I think third party, like Green is relatively harmless and more simpathetic to people in US.
    Mostly harmless...which is why a third party won't be recognized as legit in my lifetime. They need to speak up and make a few waves on a national level, not just piss and moan in a few districts here and there. The last third party candidate that was well recognized was Ross Perot, as far as a Presidential nomination goes, anyway. (...although my governor is a former wrestler and Navy SEAL, but he's not running again, due to the arrogance and incompetence of the state legislature...trust me, you'd have to live in this state to understand.)

    I don't think democratic or republican don't really care the well being of people in US.
    They do, to a point, and it's all in how one sees it. That's all I will say, since I consider myself a conservative...democrat and republican are fairly irrelevant classifications when it comes to ideologies...
    To make things clear...Conservative = smaller federal government with support for those with a sense of personal responsibility and ambition. Liberal = larger federal government with support for everyone, regardless of their sense of responsibility or ambition.
    I don't know what you think, but a sense of personal responsibility is the very foundation of my life, and I don't piss and moan about how everyone else is getting off better than I am, since, with the ambition, I will eventually be one of those people.
    And to dispel a myth...conservative republican politicians avoid taxing 'big business' because they know, as should be common sense, that when 'big business' gets taxed, they have no place to turn to pay for the extra tax but to pass the tax onto the consumer, namely YOU.
    On the other hand, liberal democrats are a charitable institution who only desire money to pay for everyone to live comfortably only to tax those who live comfortably to pay for those who don't live comfortably in order for them to live comfortably so they can tax them to pay for everyone to live comfortably so they can...see where this goes?

    Conservatism = go out and acheive greatness under your own power and you will reap the benefits of it
    Liberalism = we'll still tax your welfare check while bitching about how we need more of your tax dollars to make everyone happy.

    Ouroboros

    And as a sidenote to all of the PETA clones out there...the earth will be fine, it has amazing regenerative capabilities, so stop trying to change my behavior, since it is irrelevant. You care not for the environment, but only seek to violate the rights of human beings as ANIMALS, which we are. And we ARE the top of the food chain, and will be until we either kill ourselves or leave the planet. The 'Mother Earth' is fine, and will continue to be fine whether we are here or not. Grow up and contemplate your transportation, cooking utensils, home, clothes, and your f**king TV...."but I use less than you do!"...YOU STILL USE, AND GAIA ISN'T WORRIED...and she won't be...since PETA is nothing but a guise for the spirit of the 'Earth Nazi'..."No environment for you!!!"
    That's all.
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    "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity."

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    I vote on issues but find I most often agree with Libertarians. They at least have an eye on the constitution. Lately it seems like it's become a guideline to be disregarded when it's not convenient.
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    I just thought of something... Do you vote for another canidate even though you don't really agree with them.. but the other choice is far worse? What i mean is.. lets say you absolutely hate BUSH, but you don't particulary like gore either, but you know if you dont vote for gore there is a chance someone worse will be elected. What do you do? Vote for Gore, or vote for a third party candiate knowing their chances of winning are slim, and maybe they are so slim because this principal is often applied? I don't know... Just wondering about this.

    Do you get what im saying?

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    Teufel

    I think a lot of people who don't prefer a particular canidate do vote for the lesser of two evils. If you don't have a problem with the party, just the candidate, it would make sense. But if you consistently dislike the major parties you might want find a third party that you want to support and vote for them every chance you get. The stronger they appear, voterwise, the better chance their chance of getting more media attention leading to new members...
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