bdhoff i use a simialr prog to do that when i do major work on someones system and they seem a little flaky about payment i load a file that after 4 days it gives them a message that they need to make arrangments to pay otherwise there will be consequences and if i have not sent the remover bay a certain amount of time the first prog will move and change the names of .docs and some system files then if i still haven't sent the remover it statrs deleting files until i get paid and send the remover prog. in this day and age one can never be too careful.