Another example of users not having enough privlages. The servers you are or have access to are usually mapped as drives. Be aware that even internally any probes scans may or will be seen by net sys admin. In the past I could wach them real life in a GUI, bad stuff internal or external was alwas color coded as red. Given the present employment picture have you been asking how to get past net privlages and if so why? You are paid to do your job and most employers do have some sort of you go to school get this grade we pay for it or will in some way back your quest for knowledge eh? Just remember everything you do on a company system now days is "KNOWN".