thx phisphreek for thinkin bout my security and i got it kinda covered with norton antivirus and internet security which is working quite well i think. i dont understand why id get negative antipoints by refering to these "hacking programs" becuase antionlin provides oodles a list of oodles of these programs from which ive dled. at least i think its antionline so dont burn me if im wrong i have a horrible memory