yeah tampabay420 is right! there seems to have been a major change of attitude here in the past year or so. anything you say that might indicate you would use these programs against another will get you banned. the only type of hacking that’s condoned is testing on your own box. to say you use hacking programs is saying you’re a script kiddie with the same result...bye, bye!

a person trying to break into your machine would scan to see which services you have running and look for the appropriate exploit.