hacking my own computer

[Zenith]

Regardless of whether they are your "children" or not (yes, thats quotation marks you see there..), monitering/reading someones email and prying on instant message conversations is just wrong. Sure, try netnanny or something as someone suggested, but would *you* like it if someone cracked *your* passwords and read *your* private doings?

my two cents..

[Fabs]

*scowls* I hope your kids start tapping your phone conversations and opening your mail and reading it.

[mupp3t]

When it comes down to it, i think BO2K is a decent RAT(remote administive tool). Its only labeled as a trojan because alot of script kiddes got a hold of a good free RAT that has room for plugin's and off they went.
Also its bloody good at what it does, and im sure alot of other companies that charge for their RAT's wouldnt want a supior tool out there for free, so they may have had a hand in its branding.....

/gives paranoia back to russia

[tampabay420]

ok, here is a pretty decent open source PacketSniffer... you can use this to capture all outgoing/incoming packets with the AIM protocol within them...

The Coke Sniffer
@ :: projects :: Feb 02 2003 - 17:21 GMT
RattleSnake writes: Coke is a raw Packet sniffer for Windows with a GUI (Graphical User Interface). Coke only works under Windows 2000 and Windows XP since the WinSock Version 2.2 Implementation supports raw sockets only on these systems appropriately.

Coke is comfortable to use in my opinion, so I do not think I have to elaborate the graphical interface at all. Coke captures packets and displays quick information about them in a list - as soon as you select such a packet, the complete packet structure is displayed in a tree view control and you can select and copy the decoded values.

Coke only supports the IP Version 4 and the Transport Protocols ICMP, IGMP, TCP and UDP. Coke allows you to filter the captured packets for keywords and source IP address - these settings can be saved to an INI file as well.

Coke is simple and does not have many options. However, I think it is cool for educational purposes since it is open source and I also think that it gives you all the information you need. However, other great sniffer for windows are this one from TWLC's monitoring tools section and Iris which you will get from eEye.

http://rattlesnake.at.box.sk/newsread.php?newsid=168
Source Code (MS VC 6) -> http://rattlesnake.at.box.sk/project/coke/Coke.zip
Download -> http://rattlesnake.at.box.sk/project/coke/Coke.exe

analogX also has a nice free one, too...

[CXGJarrod]

Might it be a good thing to talk with your kids about Internet access (dangers of it and the crazy people on it) instead of logging everything and spying on your kids?

[d0ppelg@nger]

Why in the world are people saying it's "bad" to know what your kids are doing. They are YOUR KIDS, they are not live in's getting free food and bording! My gosh you people are freaking insane for saying that kids have rights to do whatever they want while they are in YOUR house. If parents didn't care then they wouldn't do anything at all. So going from the point of view that it's "wrong" to know what your kids are doing, I guess it's alright for them to smoke crack and do whatever illegal matters they want, afterall it's their life and it's none of the parents business...

When a person moves out of their parents/gaurdians house and is own THEIR OWN, then yes monitoring has a different meaning, but if you are under the AUTHORITY of another person, ie your parents, then if you are doing something against their will, then you have no right to complain about being watched. I know that now your going to say that well what if the gov't wanted to watch you, and that is the lamest argument ever. There are different levels of authority. Gov't watches public, AGAIN PUBLIC matters regarding breaking of LAWS set up by the GOV't. Parents have AUTHORITY to DISCIPLINE and watch their kids, and yes I SAID DISCIPLINE, ie PUNISH, them under the AUTHORITY given to them by the very laws of nature. If kids don't have to explain their acitions to their parents, then why in the world should anyone explain their actions to bosses, supervisors, police, gov't officals, etc...

Yes there are some really bad parents and when those matters arise the children should be pulled out of that environment ASAP, but parents that discipline and nurture their children will do that out of love for that child, not because they have some power trip of ruling over that child. Children change your whole world. You would do anything to protect them from the evils of the world, and if that means watching what they are doing then by all means do it...

Sorry for the rant, but when people say that parents don't have AUTHORITY to watch their kids and trying to protect them, it just really get's under my skin....

[CXGJarrod]

d0ppelg@nger: I am assuming that you are responding to my post.

I am not saying that you should not know what your kids are doing. I am just saying that I think it is reasonable to talk to your children first and give them your trust before you lock everything and log everything that they do and say. I do admit, that if you find questionable things on your computer you should look into a program like some of the ones mentioned in this post, but I am just in the frame of mind that if you lock down the computer and their lives, then they will want to rebel even more. I just think that if you spy on your kids (with no justification) and they find out, they will not respect you. Anyway, I am not trying to start a flame war, so I hope we are cool.

[d0ppelg@nger]

Jarrod...I might have looked at your comment and just read it for face value and not by the meaning that you had behind it. I agree talking to your kids is the FIRST item you should address. I am not for willy nilly spying on my kids, but parents do have the authority to protect their kids in a way they seem fit, within reason. I did not mean to take any statements out of context if I did. I just hear a lot of stuff from people saying that parents basically have no rights to discipline their children and attempt to protect them from environments that would hurt their children.

[CXGJarrod]

Originally posted here by d0ppelg@nger
Jarrod...I might have looked at your comment and just read it for face value and not by the meaning that you had behind it. I agree talking to your kids is the FIRST item you should address. I am not for willy nilly spying on my kids, but parents do have the authority to protect their kids in a way they seem fit, within reason. I did not mean to take any statements out of context if I did. I just hear a lot of stuff from people saying that parents basically have no rights to discipline their children and attempt to protect them from environments that would hurt their children.

And I agree with you on that. As parents (which I will not become for a while) they should be watching out for their children and feeling that they do have the authority to discipline their kids.

[Krimlin]

Well this thread is quickly turning into a flame fest. and I'm just gonna have to put my opinion. My mother has also put a censoring program onto my computer but at least i knew about it. I think it is morraly wrong to SPY on people. Especially their conversations. Talking is the way to go. That and a bit of precautions. Spying on members of your family is dishonest. And another thing, if your kids ever found out what you were doing that could permanently affect their trust in you.

my 2 cents.