[QUOTE] Originally posted here by bballad


You are calling the presidential election of 1824..hell any presidential election a littel know historical abnormailty...ike its meaningless...wow I realy worry about the people of this country some times...on another note there was a number of presidents that where never elceted president...most of them where VP of presidents who died, and there was one president that was never elected to any public office. So no the electoral college note decideing the president isn't a new thing.

as for southern corpution I wont go into the recent past at all for this one, Ken Lay not being prosecuted, Arkansaw state police acting as Pimps for the govener, Road blocks outside of polling places in black negberhoods in Florida...The daed voteing in Florida....This is realy too easy.

I think the fact that you are from texas is a good reason to question your knowlage...one of the worst school systems in the country with scores at or below the national average, most students bearly acheving rather easy standards, and not many exceeding them.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/profile.asp

Note that its not the worst...but thats a southern state also.

I would suggest you also study how the electoral college gets put into place. Each states pop vote decides who's delegates are sent to the electoral college...so I guess the pop vote dose matter. (Unfortunately the electoral college slants things away from urban areas a little ) [/QUOTE

all that and still not a valid point.

let see. first thing first.

You are calling the presidential election of 1824..hell any presidential election a littel know historical abnormailty...ike its meaningless...wow I realy worry about the people of this country some times...on another note there was a number of presidents that where never elceted president...most of them where VP of presidents who died, and there was one president that was never elected to any public office. So no the electoral college note decideing the president isn't a new thing.


umm no, im calling the manner the president was elected, being appointed by the house, a historical abnormality. kinda like the last one going to the supreme court is historacly, an abnormality. if i stated that elections were an abnormality, pleae point out where, because i cant seem to recall.


ken lays decision not to be prosocuted is not exactly southern corruption, its money and politics, same as is everywhere else, im sure if i cared to waste my time i could find some from northern states. and all u can provide is one, not very convincing. as for the other things u mentioned, could u perhaps provide a link explaing the pimping of cops. and dade county.



I think the fact that you are from texas is a good reason to question your knowlage...one of the worst school systems in the country with scores at or below the national average, most students bearly acheving rather easy standards, and not many exceeding them.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/profile.asp

Note that its not the worst...but thats a southern state also.


back to the personal attacks. hmmmm oddly enough, despite my southern education, according to the national testing stuff i took i never scored below the 95% mark in my test. the school i went to wasnt great, but we were used as a testing ground for new test and projects.
and according to the us military, i rank in the top 99%. also, having talked to ppl as part of my job every day from all over the country, i can say that by far the stupiedst ppl i talk to are from the chicago area. i get calls from there from ppl who cant even read. and not just once either. and while goign on national averages....statisticly, blacks score lower on just about everything except for drug test. does this mean if u are black, no one should listen to you? or should be able to criticize you for being black? and another thing ure average dosent show, alot of students here cant speak english very well. we have a such a large pop. of imigrants here its sad. the local elem. shcool here(in the houston area) has 1000 students, 800 are hispanic, 500 still cant speak english. of course we cant do anything about that but send them to ESL, but they still have to take the test. and chicagos schools arent that impressive either. u dont rate that much higher than texas, plus texas is graded in 4 areas, ill. only has 2. and also, the problem is texases education system is the way its implemented. not going into details, but anyone who has been in it knows what im talking about.