SickyouIT: Good point about the vehicles, this would rate as a movie faux pas IMO. Not a big deal but a fun bit of trivia to look for next time I watch it (of course I also read the nitpickers guide to Star Trek but am still a Trekkie so that should show my viewpoint on the issue).

However it is Turmoil who has really "baked my noodle". I realize I will have to watch the movie again soon as there are obviously many nuances that I missed. Just to clarify what you said (or what I read into what you typed) you think that when Neo (and the others) were "freed" from the Matrix they were actually just moved into another "Matrix" but their bodies are still really intact and under the machine's control. So the machines built a control loop to allow the most dangerous elements a chance to escape into a different reality where their aggressive tendencies could be rechanneled into an artificial war.

This would tack onto the final control loop that allowed for the development of "the One" and the whole attack on Zion. If I take this to an obvious conclusion then it would mean that everyone living "free" in Zion was actually still tapped into the Matrix just on the (for lack of a better term) second server running the alternate program.

So far I am finding it hard to bring any arguments against this theory if it is correct.

Although it would mean that either A) the machines won the war entirely the first time and there is no human enclave, or B) there may be a war still going on outside of the Matrices that we have not seen yet. <sarcasm> Maybe they can tie it into the Terminator Series for a great cross marketing action toy line</sarcasm>

It will be interesting to see how the series does wind up, I just hope it follows the same production values and excellent plot development we have seen so far.

P.S.

One happily married Geek here with 2 married kids. My only warning to you up and coming Geeks looking for a relationship, marry a geek or better yet marry someone who has a lot of interests of their own. My wife and I can be happy spending the day together or happy doing our own things. She allows me my computer time she gets her time to pursue her hobbies, activities, etc. We are free but bound together at the same time. I must admit though that I got married at 28 and had no girl friends before that and very few dates. Just waited until I found Mrs. Right and snatched her up quick From loser to the envy of all my friends