yeah, it's the comma after the url that causes the link not to work in the original post - sorry about that...

i ran AVG (virus scan) on his computer after i found the winpup32.exe, and it didn't detect a virus. when i actually ran the winpup program, zone alarm did not pop up and say that it was trying to access the internet or anything, but regardless, i removed the winpup thing anyway

the smokeandapancake website is not that impressive anyway, pay it a visit and see what i mean....