I tried the stinger app (btw-nice little app, thanks maverick), but still found nothing. I downloaded pc-cillin 2003 and tried to install that and I believe that I have found the root of my problems??? I *think* that the Windows Installer is causing my problems as I was unable to install the pc-cillin app which actually gave me a Windows Installer error message, unlike the Symantec AV. I guess my *assumption* that any apps installed to Windows uses the Windows Installer is incorrect, as I have been able to install acrobat reader, numerous M$ patches and ad-aware successfully.

So, I'm going to try to re-install Windows Installer and see where that leaves me.

I appreaciate all the help and suggestions!