thanks again for all your advice...like i think i may have mentioned before am really new to all this.. (and i mean really new!!!) so I have to admit I didnt quite understand all of it (sad but true but, hey, we all have to start somewhere.....)havent had any probs for a few days now, but like i said being new am trying to learn, so have printed off all your tips for future refernce and will try a couple of the dls you suggested just to double check i dont have any nastys lurking.... cheers all!!! x