Did I do the right thing?

[MrLinus]

network admin you have to know how to hack, to prevent it, right

Technically, no. All you need to know is how to setup the network and make it effective for users to use it. Ideally, the answer would be yes but there are many who think that learning to hack means you will hack. They often forget the importance of ethics, something you show well. Personally, if you were my student, I'd be giving you more activities to do or hiring you as an assistant.

[PM8228]

thanks mittens. As for now I must make a run for... apparently I need to attend english class.

[nihil]

Hi PM8228

You certainly do...what you said about communications skills


I think that your administration may suspect that it was you who created the problem in the first place? The morons should be fired........they left a machine in a state where any punk could go in and set the BIOS password?

Do they have anyone there with an opposable thumb whose knuckles don't scrape the pavement when they walk along? Hey, you just power it down open it up, change jumper switch, power on again etc............resets the password to blank?

If you are doing a repetitive task for a period of time you WILL NOT remember.........they need to see a shrink?

OH well...................next time you "help" anyone, make sure that they pay you in advance and by check (extortionists and blackmailers don't take checks )

As for hacking....you do not need to now how to do it, only how it is done...............learn your OS first.

Good luck mate!

[Striek]

I remember being in the 10th grade and executing my first network hack ever. Not even a hack, really, I just took advantage of someone else's error. My computer programming teacher had a nasty habit of leaving his workstation logged in and unattended. My constant complaints about this being a major security hole were ignored. Who would listen to a 15 year old? The admins certainly didn't want to be told how to do thier job by a kid like me. So I figured out how to grant myself admin rights on the system, and once he was gone, it took all of 10 seconds. After I pointed out how I as able to gain access, the schoold admin nearly suspended me for hacking thier network. I mean, if I was truly malicious, I could have wiped out *everything*. But instead I told them about it. They didnn't seem to care. Although they fixed the problem (reprimanded the teacher for leaving his workstaion) they never so much as thanked me for pointing out the problem.

So I learned never to do nice things like that for other people. It's an art they don't understand, and what they don't understand they are afraid of.

[J3D1 M4573R]

hey man 3y3 tottally feel for j00. this whole year has been like that ph0r me. actually i even got accus3d of putting spyw4re and stuf on the computers. the thing is that at our school (santa rosa high, CA), the kids do most of the work on the networks anyway - whether the teachers know it or not. the school has one "tech" and 200 computers. anyw4ys, you need to h4v3 enough trust built up with the admins allready before you do a good deed that (an be misinterpreted. it's true that people are afraid of something about computers or kids (especially when mix3d) that they don't understanl> - whether i7's stupid of them not to embrace the heLp or n07...

[PM8228]

Hey, you just power it down open it up, change jumper switch, power on again etc............resets the password to blank?

I didn not read about this until I tried to mess around with my own BIOS which was at a later time, but I think the school would take even less kindly to someone opening up their box and messing with the mother board.

The morons should be fired........they left a machine in a state where any punk could go in and set the BIOS password? Do they have anyone there with an opposable thumb whose knuckles don't scrape the pavement when they walk along?

Hehe. Actually the current he got premoted to more powerful "person."
Lesson: Ask the netadmins if you are going to do something questionalbe first. Also never show up stupid network admins, it pisses them off. I think most other people would listen and then research it or ask a colleages.

Slightly off topic: Since it is my junior year I should start looking at colleges, this however requires I have some idea of what I want to do. I want a job with computers, so research, programming, being an admin, security analyst, and probably a bunch more you all know. So, what college would you recommend that I go to?

[nihil]

Hi Folks!



AMNESTY PLEASE


Jeddi Knight.......................I think that that is your name....................you are talking sense, but I would recommend that you don't use that funny spelling stuff...........it tends to piss people around here?

Even if it doesn't...................cut me some slack...........I am old and have difficulty in understanding the crap I get from the IRS

Cheers

Hi PM8228,

I guess you commited the sin of "overenthusiasm".........don't worry about it mate...many of us here have been there

Promotion is a good way of getting rid of incompetents.................I prefer "elevation", but it is so difficult to get hold of a decent quantity of C4 these days

Being over here I cannot advise you as to colleges as such....but I will give it some thought and get back over the weekend..regarding course content/career path.

I think that Ms Mittens would be a good person to ask, given that she would not have to swim 3500 miles to talk to you.

Perhaps you should start a new thread asking the question?

Good luck

[aeallison]

Originally posted here by J3D1 M4573R
hey man 3y3 tottally feel for j00. this whole year has been like that ph0r me. actually i even got accus3d of putting spyw4re and stuf on the computers. the thing is that at our school (santa rosa high, CA), the kids do most of the work on the networks anyway - whether the teachers know it or not. the school has one "tech" and 200 computers. anyw4ys, you need to h4v3 enough trust built up with the admins allready before you do a good deed that (an be misinterpreted. it's true that people are afraid of something about computers or kids (especially when mix3d) that they don't understanl> - whether i7's stupid of them not to embrace the heLp or n07...

I have near ZERO! patience for this kind of crap. Please try to type in english, this is an english speaking site. Sorry about the negs, but my clicker finger felt you deserved it.

PM8228 I think that you have possibly learned a good lesson here, heed the warnings that were given by the rest of the users in this thread and you will not have this unfortunate outcome in the future.

Cheers

[BourneAgain]

What's that saying -- "No good deed goes unpunished"
That's to bad your being helpful gets you into trouble

[phernandez]

Bourne,

You and I must've been on the same "wavelength" when I posted this week's AO spotlight column over at eITplanet.com

http://www.enterpriseitplanet.com/se...le.php/3086691

Jedi... Please keep the l33t spe4k to a minimum. Clever, sure. But not very user-friendly.