Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
If they do not care for Christianity or whatever else, then why worry about it?
Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
Sure you can talk about it, talk about it all day long. If something is not important, then why worry about it so much? Sure, Christianity has ruled millions of people for a long time, but to a satanist, that should be immaterial.
That's just bullshit. A lot of decision makers in this world base their decisions on Christian values rooted in soceity. Just because Satanists don't like christianity doesn't mean they should hypocritically ignore it's big role in the lives of many many people.

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
From my understanding, it seems as if it is a "piss on you" philosophy.
I seriously doubt you've read the Satanic Bible from an unbiased perspective, if you've read it at all. The Satanic philosophy finds its roots in the views of recognized philosophers and psychologists like Nietzsche, Reich, Freud and Jung. Only a small portion deals with other religions.

Originally posted here by Sick Dwarf
If that's the case, how could you possibly say that Satanists believe in god?
What I meant here was, if you've read the Satanic Bible, how can you say that Satanists believe in god?

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
It's basically, do not believe the crap the other churches have been feeding you, and buy into our brand of bullshit instead.
I bet you say this when discussing any religion. You are seriously biased. I'd say you somehow had some bad experience with some religion, and now you have something against them as a whole. The word "religion" means more then worshipping some out-of-this-world entity or vaguely defined bullshit philosophy. To quote webster:
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Whether you like it or not, you are a religious man yourself.

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
If they do not believe in god or spiritual pipe dreams, then why perform all of this magic and other things if things are so cut and dried to begin with?
If you've read the Satanic Bible, you'd know that the rituals you are refering to are functioning as emotional outlets, and not as spells to do **** in your life for you.

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
It seems to me they are in a defensive standpoint. Then again, that is just my take.
Indeed. Just your take.

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
That in itself is silly. If you reject something, reject it. No need to peddle backwards and say you can indulge in whatever you want because of what the other bs religions tell you, now just follow our brand of rules and sins instead.
They don't say you can do anything you want because of what the other religions tell you, they say you can do anything you want, as long as you are willing to accept responsibility for your actions. This is, assuming one wants to call himself a Satanist to begin with. They don't force anything on anyone. You won't find Satanists collecting "souls." And the "sins" you talk about are not the same kind of sins you have with other religions. Satanists never claim something bad happens in some vaguely determined afterlife when you break the rules. I get the feeling you are generalizing religions as a whole.

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
That's what made that book so funny. Such rebels...
You are making this comment because you're assuming that the flaw in logic you spotted was also in the book, while it was simply a misinterpretation on your side of what I said. My guess is you read the book years ago, as a teenager, not in any intellectual or mental position to properly judge what you've read.

Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
Oh well, no big deal Franky. I am no satanist expert, nor do I care. It's just my take on it... we can argue about this all day long and will still disagree. That's ok too.
I have to agree with you. You cannot judge that which you do not know. We'll just let it rest.