I am guessing you got impatient with the submit button:-P I had tried using cain and abel, which is where I got the POP account password from, but since XP didn't give me the asterisks, just the "[Click here to save changed Password]" crap it wasn't of much use. Interestingly when I googled for cain I recieved the following warning http://www.google.co.uk/interstitial...d.it/cain.html saying that it is malicious software, how long have google been doing this? Although I am starting to drift off-topic now