Lost Password - Need Hack

[morganlefay]

I have asked the same question over and over and over..

Do you have the receipt or proof of payment...hence ownership????


You havent answer that...If you do...you tell GoDaddy that you are the owner and you want to change the DNS records for YOUR domain.

If you want to MOVE the website...then you need ftp access\hosting permission.

You appear to be confused about the difference between domains, dns, hosting and ftp.

If you do not have a copy of your website handy...you will have to redesign from scratch.

MLF

[mjsmikey]

Do you have the receipt or proof of payment...hence ownership????

I honestly don't think my Aunt Still has this Email, but.. Since GoDaddy is the Original Registration and they Acknolegded that they originally aquired the domain, they would have no problem verifing the information with my Aunt whom has called them on several Occations, and they have verified the domain registration with her. I'm sure we could have that email resent if that is what we need...but so far they just verify over the phone.

As for moving the Website... Doesn't need to happen... Building a new site is more benificial anyway.

You appear to be confused about the difference between domains, dns, hosting and ftp.

Here this is coming up again... I thought I explained this Already. Should I give you the Definitions? I understand what everything does and Means.

I'm just trying to minimize the Risk of losing more customers to potential Fraud. SomeOne at GoDaddy may very well not know what they are talking about, but what they told me was... In transfering Domain names from one host to another, they first have to send a request to the original host for a DNS change. Untill the Host responds and agreed they cannot and will not Change the DNS. -- I'm guessing this might protect people who purchased the name from someone else. / domain names are hot sellers on EBAY. --

I hope this clears up everything.

[d00dz Attackin]

Morgan:

Next thing... I know there is a difference between DNS and FTP...

We cannot forget that he knows this material.

Look kiddo,

DNS (Domain Name System) translates your www.example.com into an IP address. Now if we can figure out that the square goes into the shape of the same sized square, it works! Your www.example.com is forwarded to 1.2.3.4 (the hacked server), simply changing your IP address through DNS, it can go to 2.3.4.5 that states (you can even use www.freewebs.com for the time being), website is down, contact whatever at whatever dot com.

Your DNS will look like NS1.ILikeGirls.com (there will be two of these, reason being is that if one goes down the other one will do the redirecting for the time being). Get in contact with your DNS provider, since it isn't hosted via a company. I highly doubt this house is providing your DNS needs. (Companies provide their own DNS services being that they do not host just one website.)

[nihil]

This thread reminds me of trying to teach pigs how to sing..............

It wastes your time, and frequently annoys the pig

Actually we have attempted the police but there is actually nothing we can do. Police said although they have taken your money and cashed those business checks this is nothing illegal. They said that because the Name isn't trademarked any person could legally cash those checks, and the bank that cashed them doesn't even have to verify ownership.

Well, you must live in some kind of banana republic then. Fraudulent conversion and identity theft are crimes in both the EU and North America.

Go to the FBI or their equivalent. You claim that the amount exceeds $5,000?........ they will be interested (one way or another)

Has anybody wondered about the "customers" who are generating this alleged "income". Maybe they are not getting the goods or service that they are paying for? Wouldn't they be concerned................probably not if they felt that they had been ripped off?

Incidentally, what is the nature of this alleged "business"? Like if I go to your website and order an automobile and you deliver it to me; then someone else cashes the cheque............... that is fraud, and most police forces would respond automatically?

No gore, you are not the only one pissing yourself laughing.

Why is it that I envisage one shower of toerags ripping off another shower of toerags, and all they can think of is illegal activity as a solution?

The lack of police interest tells me a lot.............. how about you folks?

Go here:

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm

Internet fraud and SPAM

• FBI local office
• U.S. Secret Service (Financial Crimes Division)
• Federal Trade Commission (online complaint)
• if securities fraud or investment-related SPAM e-mails, Securities and Exchange Commission (online complaint)
• The Internet Crime Complaint Center

[foxyloxley]

Jeez
just construct a new site, get it up on a new host
start over
do the re-direct for the DNS to your new site

jobs a gud'un

although I smell BS
OP just wants to gain illegal access to someone else's server
[your words OP ]
and to reitterate Doodz words

just leave .............

I mean, come on .........
$20 000 at stake
it's a business
and your 'Aunt' doesn't keep the receipt

[nihil]

Hmmmm,

Just went to the local hotel and spent an hour and a half with a few cronies. We discussed this issue as it was of interest to all parties (being):

1. The Filth
2. Trading Standards
3. 2 lawyers
4. Me

The questions and points raised were:

1. Assuming that you do not have a limited liability corporation, and you do not have the ability to, or have not, registered a trading name, someone else can trade in the same name. It should be noted that it is not "your" name, it is just "a" name.

2. Provided that the means that you use to do so are legal, the interception or soliciting of someone else's business is also not illegal. This is called "competition", and is one of the bases of antitrust.

At this point, The Filth observed that taxicab companies and ice-cream vendors didn't really enter into the spirit of competition, unless the spirit was petrol in a bottle with a lighted rag, backed up with a sawn-off gauge.

3. From a trading standards viewpoint, the question is whether the customer requested specific goods or services, and if these were supplied to legal requirements, and to the customer's satisfaction. The mere fact that they might have been supplied by someone other than whom the customer thought they were dealing with is irrelevant. So long as the goods or services were genuine and met standards then that is OK.

4. From a legal viewpoint, the person who provides the goods or services must be the one who gets paid for them. Similarly, the person who pays for goods or services must get supplied with them. Anything else is a criminal offence in all countries where law and order still prevail.

5. From an IT viewpoint; you are, or are not, the registered owner of a "domain". These things are not infinite, and need renewing. If you let a domain expire, you can get squatted on, that is a fact of life It might also explain why GoDaddy will not co-operate and why internet arbitrators are involved?

I do not know the laws and standards that apply to your specific locality. You will have to check those yourself.

I have studied the posts in this thread very carefully. It seems that this happened "all of a sudden"? well, I have been instrumental in putting enough fraudsters in the "big house" to tell you that they are not creatures of passion and impulse.

As I read it, the domain title lapsed and the guy took it over, thus hi-jacking the business as well. Explains GoDaddy and the arbitration?

You may well be pissed off with your own stupidity, sorry, your aunt's, but that is no excuse to attempt illegal activities to recover the situation from someone who may well be regarded as amoral (by me at least!) but has operated within the law. If you don't like the law: tell your representative, or vote in another?

[morganlefay]

I just fail to understand why the OP cannot just change the DNS for said owned domain.

If you own the domain...you can transfer to any host you want....unless of course you let the domain name lapse...where the other company then purchased the domain because you did not pay the renewal.

We have a similar issue where we own ourcompany.ca and someone else owns ourcompany.com...we are currently trying to find a legal way to take ourcompany.com down....although this appears to be a long and tedious task involving lawyers.

But ourcompany.ca is still our domain allowing us to use, transfer update etc as we wish....although we have no legal right to ourcompany.com...and we have not resorted to illegal activities.

As stated...if the company is delivering goods to the consumer ...there is no fraud.

One of my favorite sayings is

"there are no technical solutions to administrative problems"

Hence if you dont have proof of ownership...your SOL

I suggest your aunt start to employ better business practices.

MLF

[mjsmikey]

I just fail to understand why the OP cannot just change the DNS for said owned domain...

I totally agree. This is what I have been trying to Say all along!!! Hence the Reason for this Discussion.

And yes, I'm sure my Aunt could have made some better decisions, but what is done is done so Now I'm attepting to clean it up.

Thank you forum for your help and insight. I wasn't aware FTC and FEDs handled things like this, I have already informed my aunt of those proper chanels.

Hopefully the WIPO will move quickly so that I can change the DNS, since I obviously cannot find a way to alternatively change the site for temporary use/redirects

[d00dz Attackin]

I totally agree. This is what I have been trying to Say all along!!! Hence the Reason for this Discussion.

And yes, I'm sure my Aunt

Tell: Say, Reason, Discussion, and Aunt - I said hello.

I thought the reason of this discussion was found in the title? I think I'm going to write a book on Human Anatomy, and name it "One-Hundred Best Blue Chip Stocks of 2007."

Nihil:

Consider being a detective, would you? You make great points and a proper way of analyzing his posts.

*Cheers*

[mjsmikey]

I thought the reason of this discussion was found in the title? I think I'm going to write a book on Human Anatomy, and name it "One-Hundred Best Blue Chip Stocks of 2007."

Sometimes, Things are better left unsaid...