window manager question with linux

ok i have a book "running linux" by o'reilly books
very good read and taught me $h1t loads of info
but im still kinda clueless one something


i downloaded icewm and fluxbox
i want one of them to be my dominat manager as in when i type startx i want that to run
im using rh9
this book ses i have to modify my xinitrc script but the example looks nothing like what i have
the following is my xiinitrc script

#!/bin/sh
# (c) 1999-2002 Red Hat, Inc.

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
userxkbmap=$HOME/.Xkbmap

sysresources=/etc/X11/Xresources
sysmodmap=/etc/X11/Xmodmap
sysxkbmap=/etc/X11/Xkbmap

# merge in defaults
if [ -f "$sysresources" ]; then
xrdb -merge "$sysresources"
fi

if [ -f "$userresources" ]; then
xrdb -merge "$userresources"
fi

# merge in keymaps
if [ -f "$sysxkbmap" ]; then
setxkbmap `cat "$sysxkbmap"`
XKB_IN_USE=yes
fi

if [ -f "$userxkbmap" ]; then
setxkbmap `cat "$userxkbmap"`
XKB_IN_USE=yes
fi

if [ -z "$XKB_IN_USE" -a ! -L /etc/X11/X ]; then
if grep '^exec.*/Xsun' /etc/X11/X > /dev/null 2>&1 && [ -f /etc/X11/XF86Config ]; then
xkbsymbols=`sed -n -e 's/^[ ]*XkbSymbols[ ]*"\(.*\)".*$/\1/p' /etc/X11/XF86Config`
if [ -n "$xkbsymbols" ]; then
setxkbmap -symbols "$xkbsymbols"
XKB_IN_USE=yes
fi
fi
fi

# xkb and xmodmap don't play nice together
if [ -z "$XKB_IN_USE" ]; then
if [ -f "$sysmodmap" ]; then
xmodmap "$sysmodmap"
fi

if [ -f "$usermodmap" ]; then
xmodmap "$usermodmap"
fi
fi

unset XKB_IN_USE

# run all system xinitrc shell scripts.
for i in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/* ; do
if [ -x "$i" ]; then
. "$i"
fi
done

# The user may have their own clients they want to run. If they don't,
# fall back to system defaults.
# set up ssh agent environment if available.

if [ -f $HOME/.Xclients ]; then
[ -x /usr/bin/ssh-agent -a -z "$SSH_AGENT_PID" ] && \
exec ssh-agent $HOME/.Xclients || \
exec $HOME/.Xclients
elif [ -f /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients ]; then
[ -x /usr/bin/ssh-agent -a -z "$SSH_AGENT_PID" ] && \
exec ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients || \
exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
else
# failsafe settings. Although we should never get here
# (we provide fallbacks in Xclients as well) it can't hurt.
xclock -geometry 100x100-5+5 &
xterm -geometry 80x50-50+150 &
if [ -x /usr/bin/netscape -a -f /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ]; then
netscape /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html &
fi
if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 ]; then
exec fvwm2
else
exec twm
fi
fi


i dont care weather i use icewm or fluxbox but what ever u can help me with will be fine
i chose the text login not graphical so i cant boot to fail safe and open icewm unless there really is a problem



overall question

want to use icewm OR fluxbox instead of kde or gnome
dont no what to do to my xinitrc script cause it looks greek (for now)

any sugestion/comment/etc... welcome
thanx all :)

I didnt understand if you intalled already icewm or not.

Anyway, the INSTALL file that comes with icewm is pretty well documented and tell you evrything you need to start in X with it.

From what I saw in your .xinitrc file the script looks first for fvwm2 and if it doest find it looks for twm to start it.

In icewm INSTALL file you will find the requirements for running it and what to add to your .xinitrc file though and i quote "Normally, icewm should be started from ~/.Xclients file. This will work the same for 'startx' and 'xdm' logins. The file must have execute permissions (chmod a+x ~/.Xclients) ."

But .xinitrc is a good file to start it up too. :)

I suggest you read the INSTALL file and also the html doc that comes with icewm. Be sure you have XFreeype and a font comparable with Adobe's Helvetica.

Good luck!

ok il look at the install docs and yes i have both of them icewm and fluxbox installed
i did the same on a different box but if i wanted to use on of them i had to choose failsafe mode from the rh9 login menu then type blackbox or icewm or fluxbox or what ever i had installed

it worked
i edited the ~.Xclients-default file to start icewm and open xterm and nautlius
thanks for your help

you're welcome! :)

I guess the hard part will start now to configure icewm... I tried to set it on cygwin but eats way too much memory, blackbox wouldnt compile but openbox runs just smooth...