Mobman

I place most the blame on the makers of these tools. We all know that script kiddies lack the motivation, the knowledge, and the skill to create tools like these on their own. Of course, the script kiddie is out there actively using the tools, so they do take on some of the blame themselves. But the root of the problem lies with the makers of the tools.

Try this example: After watching the movie "Hackers," Little Johnny Script Kiddie is inspired and wants to be a 'hacker.' So he gets on his parents' brand spakin' new computer with Internet access and performs a search for 'hacker tools.' Eventually, he discovers this new backdoor tool and learns how to use. Little Johnny Script Kiddie is not interested in how the tools works, the technology behind all of this, he is simply interested in bragging to his friends that he had administrative access to a remote machine - whoopy damn doo. If Little Johnny Script Kiddie had never found this tool to begin with, the possibility exists that he would have never caused this damage because like I've said earlier, we all know he does not possess the motiviation or skill to do these things himself.

While I'm not a fan of these tools at all, two valid uses might be for anti-ddos attack testing and for a researcher to use a ddos attack on his own network to fully understand it, then to come up with means to prevent the attacks.

Just some thoughts...

I've used Sub7 before for several different things on my home network. It provides better access to a Windows box for troubleshooting than any program Microsoft has ever come out with. I once had the opportunity to talk to Mobman, and what he told me was that he made Sub7 just because he enjoyed programming. Besides, despite the fact that if I need to crack something I try to do it on my own, I've never been adverse to supplementing my skills with a few good programs. Take help where you can get it, yes? Aah, this'll probably get me flamed and negative pointed into oblivion, but what the heck.

SSJVegeta-Sei

im just going to comment on the "Also what about the other options like screen flip and matrix....what use would a legit user have for these?" part.

think of it this way: if you were going to code a trojan, what would you do? my guess is that you would answer that the same way i would. you would put in the "coolest" features you can think of. those two particular functions cause no real harm, but are tremondously cool from the standpoint of a coder. they are funny. that is why i think they were included.

i mean, c'mon...think about it, its not features like those that cause you to want to not have a trojan on your system...its stuff like the file browser with del suport that you dont want. infact, if you could "turn off"(i know this is possible with some versions, not sure which) certian features, there really wouldnt be much of a malicious use for it...

How typical, Lockdown is a scam. I thas been proben that it fails to detect trojans and here Michael Paris has an interview with the guy who makes the proudct he "tries" to fight?
look at www.pc-help.org
there is still an ongoing case about Lockdown va Pchelp