More innocent lives lost !!

Hey all!
Im moving this thread to Cosmos at the request of a few people, I hope this dosent inconvience anybody, if it does let me know.

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God does not fight against himself,
nor does he instigate people
to fight each other.

I think it's obvious what's going on
here.


The five points of Calvinism:

1. Total Depravity. Man is a wicked vicious being.
There is NOTHING good in any man.

2. Unconditional election. God, and God alone
will decide who will be the chosen favored ones.
If he decides to have mercy on some, or none,
that's His business. See point 1 above.

3. Limited atonement. The blood of the son of
God was shed as a sacrifice to pay for sin.
He didn't waste his blood on those who
are not chosen. See point 2 above.

4. Irresistable grace. If He has your number,
you may as well surrender, because no matter how
bad you are (point 1), he chose you (point 2)
died for you (point 3). That's why gospel
means "good news".

5. Perseverence of the saints. If all this is so,
(review first 4 points), then you have assurance
to persevsere to the end.

If you think the "hell on earth" that you see today is bad,
wait until you see the real thing.
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i won't get into pointing the finger, or sticking it up! people need to realize the beauty in diversity, first. second, people of God need to see that if they kill and wage war against others, then they are no better than a petty murderer. one side needs to be the "bigger man" and say "enough!". remember that a cycle, especially one of violence and hate is very hard to break, so efforts need to start now. it is sad that all this is happening, and worse, many views are bias.

rcgreen - I never heard about that before. Wasn't Calvin a churchman?

Listen here Bimmer, there is no war against the islam but a war against the so called "non believers" who are all the worlds population that does not believe in the Islam.
We Christians weren't all that nice during the crusades back a century ago but at least we grew up and stopped this nonsense. Only the Islam refuses to do so, look at Iran, I read in the paper this morning that the country is allmost entirley depressed because they can't do anything. No dancing no music no nothing. And the women stil walk around like mobile tents.
So what is your point being?

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Originally posted here by gold eagle
rcgreen - I never heard about that before. Wasn't Calvin a churchman?

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A major thinker of the protestant reformation, he
was a church leader in Geneva.
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I agree with Focmaster...

There is no war against Islam or Muslims by the United States or the West....

There is no question that some westerners hate Islam, just as some Muslims hate the west. But a few wackos do not condem the whole crowd. I don't blame you for the actions of Osama Bin Laden or Sadam Hussien, don't blame us for the actions of Sharon or other homicidal maniacs...

sorry guys .. i wasn't following this thread ....
but anyway ..
first of all ... i don't like to go deep into this issue ... unless i want to be viewed as haraam77 and oblio .. as a guest !

but .. one thing i'm sure from .. is

my point of view will be always differ than urs coz' of
i live in a different community .
my religion is not urs

and i've been living for my whole life as a Muslim .. and believes in Islam .. guys it's 30 years ...

but i got through many religions and read allots of their books ... and i still believe in Islam ..

so thats all ... not more not less.

and if u wanna know what Islam has said about other religions .. or disbelievers as quran named them ... the, just read my signature

Bimmer -

If only more people of all religions could be so tolerant, the world would be a better place...

But they are not, and its not, so I go back to my job for yet antoher day....sigh...

rcgreen - thks. So he was Swiss then.