u really found a site that hadn't fixed the phf one? damn I thout what was so well known all the sites had it fixed up anyway my 1st one was my isp's server that heald evryone's username/password I told 'em i was gonna be doing wargames and not to kick me off or 'odd' acctivity or anything they they told me to see how secure there site was, (there site was good jsut there user server)