and now for something completely different......... you read/hear about the H.O.P.E. (hackers of planet earth) convention? gotta hand it to the cdc once again they've outdone themselves... the 6/4 project is by far the best security prog ive even heard of to date...... who needs that gov't junk that'll probably be full of spyware and other junk. id trust a hacker with my comp before the gov't anyday anytime ...............